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The definition of preposterous.....
So this week the reason HRs are OP are as follows: 1. The deflect-heal set bonus. 2. TW. Here's why this is so laughable. TW and the set bonus have existed as long as HRs have existed. The set bonus was on Predator. And they buffed Thorn Strike in Mod3 not Thorn Ward. But they were not OP when intorduced. It was thorns so they nerfed that. It was fox so they nerfed that. And just for poops and giggles they nerfed stormstep and splitshot too. Now the QQing is directed at something the HR has always had but was never a problem before.
Here's the real problem. HRs were so neglected and despised in PVE that most of them respecced for PVP and just did PVP for most of their gameplay. When you fight someone, of any class, with a pure PVP spec and pure PVP experience the odds are you are going to get pwned.
Here's the real problem. HRs were so neglected and despised in PVE that most of them respecced for PVP and just did PVP for most of their gameplay. When you fight someone, of any class, with a pure PVP spec and pure PVP experience the odds are you are going to get pwned.
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HR Stormwarden Trapper / Stormwarden Combat
GWF Swordmaster Destroyer
CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
Thorn Ward was buffed, so to speak. Gentlemancrush mentioned during the initial changes that he sped up the ticks of TW so it hit faster, meaning more damage. I thought he meant to buff damage and radius too but that was only for Thorn Strike. It was omitted from the patch notes however, although we can clearly see it is more powerful in Mod 3.
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So Pathfinder's can have two at-will bleed's. So OP? Or is it just because Pathfinder got screwed on most of their damage class skills, so they finally tried out those other class skills that seemed less attractive on Stormwarden's but work out great for mitigation?
Certainly some might actually use those Pathfinder skills with the base feats for a more 'regen scrapper' kind of feel, but at face value most of them seem woefully underpowered both for PvE and PvP from a damage standpoint.
If you lose your sense of sight, you compensate with hearing. Lose your left arm, you get better with your right. If you are no longer able to divide your energy into two different tasks, you will, very reasonably, devote all skill to one thing, essentially growing better at it than you would have first expected.
*Hunters Teamwork/Careful Attack is way better than Electric Shot/Clear the Ground
*Slasher's Mark is way better than Cold Steel Hurricane
CA in particular synergises well with Aimed Strike and Thorn Ward, which is where all the QQing is coming from. And a couple of the class features are worth using. Otherwise the core of all the successful builds are the common powers and feats.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
THIS
And in the meantime SW is left to its own (poor) devices, with slow animation DPS skills, practically no AOE, a joke "aoe" (TW), even jokier dailies (only one useful being DS), WORST Itemization ever seen and subpar damage overall...oh well unless you slot you your brother and your neighbour for measly tens of millions of ADs..
I couldn't contest a node quite as good, but I had super fast cooldowns with aspect of the serpent and could take out chunks of hp on the whole team with split shot on the middle node. I think people didn't notice the splitshot damage cause it was from off node and separately, it only hit for 5k (but 25k total damage on the enemy if they were all there), and people tend to get more upset at people they can't kill than people that kill them.
It just made more sense to me and made me feel like we had a unique place in games. Now since our playstyle is so focused on node-contesting we're almost interchangeable with TRs.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
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It's funny how some people automatically assume PF makes them superior. I came across a PF HR by the name of Almeira@merracen (or something to that effect) last night and after a few skirmishes where he managed to kill me all of once, which by the way was the only time in the battle I died, he told me how bad I was - and this after he had died of all eight times LOL. Before I could respond he put me on ignore - the child.
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PF is generally superior to SW for one specific role only - tanking a node. For ST DPS there isn't much to choose between the two, and for AOE DPS I'd say that SW is much better.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
Yeah as I said above I play SW Combat HR. With the upcoming healing nerf most players will abandon this PF build so I see no reason to change mine, and anyway I also play an Archer, although he is more focused on pve but I do dabble in pvp every day, be it just for the dailies.
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Clearly reading other people's posts is a skill you're still working on. You literally just rewrote my post and pretended like you were being original.
What 'better class skills' are you talking about in particular? Pathfinder's specific class skills almost all center themselves around healing or movement. None of them do anything at all to boost your damage. (Power's are not class skills, by the way.)
These are all 100% things a Stormwarden can pull off too. The only thing they don't get is Careful Attack, which I think you could agree that's not going to be your #1 high damage power. Aimed Strike will do more damage than CA. While both are certainly nice, I'm hesitant to say that a bleed that ticks once per 1.5 seconds is what put's it over into OP territory. While certainly Slasher's Mark is good too, it's a daily that costs 100% of your AP. It should be good. (And I agree that CSH doesn't compare.)
It's the dodges and dodge windows, with large stamina gain, not the damage.
Both halves of Fox's Cunning give a dodge on top of HR's having more plain dodges than any other class. (With an easy to achieve 35% Stamina regen with powers that also give Stamina regen. Ha!)
That, combined with things like Aspect of the Lone Wolf, make HR's super tanky while also being very difficult to tie down for a toe-to-toe engagement. So pretty much any 1v1 melee class is going to be either a stalemate or a loss, it just takes HR forever to actually kill someone.
(Keep in mind that the only use for such a build is contesting nodes. Caught in the open you can just leave the HR to play by themselves. Without the need to stand in or near their thorn ward the HR can only nickel and dime you.)
So really, it's the issue that HR's are able to get very high mitigation while also being 100% immune to damage while dodging which they can do over...and over...and over again.
The DoT's themselves are basically a joke, even though they can kill a person it's the survivability that's the problem not over the top damage. (If indeed there is a problem; which when compared to the woe's of CW and the ballbusting of GWF I'm not sure focusing on the HR is the best idea here.)
I'm certain that if that video was two GWF versus the same HR he'd have been cut in twain. Just sayin'.