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Are Players On Mounts Around NPC's Too Much???

married1of3married1of3 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
edited January 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Did you ever wonder why the developers chose to have players dismounted only around certain areas, like "Rhix" and the "Wondrous Bazaar"...

Pretty simple to imagine; Can you picture what a horrible mess it would be to have all the Saturday evening players "And All Of Their Mounts As Well" shoving and pushing around Rhix, each trying to get close enough to pick up or turn in their quests?

Now you can see why the initial developers at Perfect World had you dismounted around Rhix; but I ask you to think even further into the "Very Near Future"...

With this games expansions bringing in hordes of new players, "and every available instance now bursting at the seams", it was only a matter of time until of these players get frustrated and (unfortunately for the community) aggressive, while they're just trying to simply go through the basic game mechanics!

Everyone must feel the effects of server overload by now, and sadly that is just the fuel that is needed to set this normally decent community on edge and heading into ruins (just realized the pun:-), but with the developers tools already in place to help this overstressed community remain courteous and stable, why hasn't the developer instituted this across the board at every quest giver and transaction point that we all use every day???

If you normally dismount yourselves at the bank window (so you can be courteous to those around you), then why would you want to put up with the non-community oriented player trampling all the decent folks, who were simply trying to do their bank transactions without coming out of the bank screen window to find a sea of Horses HAMSTER's in their face, as well as the mounts they were riding?

!Note of coming attractions for you Perfect World Developers!:

Recently I saw a very unfortunate display of Community Frustrations/Server Overload that could have been avoided, as one player just took his mount and plowed his way through a good sized dismounted crowd of players, who were just trying to get their mail at the Postal Carrier (near the auction house)...

This frustrated (and obviously immature) player got into the middle of the crowd and just reared up their mounted horse relentlessly at every one trying to get to their mail...

Soon the crowd got tired of this childish display of hostility and then sadly got mounted themselves to create a stampede of horses trying to trample the frustrated offender...

(So sad to see immature pack mentality taking over this game, and ruining our normally decent community, especially when the developers already have the tools to prevent this... ie, Rhix's automatic dismount routine!)

Here is another way to think about it:
With Server resources at a premium these days, think of what resources could be saved to smooth out our game play, just by not having to draw out and animate our mounts when we are trying to interact with Transaction Nodes, Quest Givers, and Interacting NPC
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Never had a problem clicking any banker, auctioneer, questgiver, etc no matter how many people were there mounted or not. This is not a problem.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Never had a problem clicking any banker, auctioneer, questgiver, etc no matter how many people were there mounted or not. This is not a problem.
    Just because it's not a problem to *you*, it doesn't mean it's not a problem for anyone else, either. Please tone down your arrogance and do some research next time. This issue have been reported many times before, including by me. And yes, it *is* a big problem.
  • woriraworira Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The real issue is that this game inexplicably uses the same button for player interaction and every other kind.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ladymythos wrote: »
    Just because it's not a problem to *you*, it doesn't mean it's not a problem for anyone else, either. Please tone down your arrogance and do some research next time. This issue have been reported many times before, including by me. And yes, it *is* a big problem.

    Don't spam f, put your target on where the npc should be, wait a sec, the "press f" notification will show up, then press f, there is no reason for anyone to have a problem with it.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Never ment to offend anyone, honest friends (Just trying to think of ways to improve all our gameplay & community)...
    "More server resources and community respect will do nothing but make things better for all of us" :D

    I really doubt that it would save server resources too, sorry but I just don't think that would actually happen even if mounts weren't in the game.
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  • yogokouyogokou Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Dismounting for 2 seconds then re-mounting is not an effective cut on resources, and I'd rather save the 4 extra clicks when I'm returning the quests. It is much faster and much less annoying as it is now.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Don't spam f, put your target on where the npc should be, wait a sec, the "press f" notification will show up, then press f, there is no reason for anyone to have a problem with it.

    This is exactly it. Just hover your cursor in the right area and it will find the vendor for you, magically penetrating through the entire crowd of players, no matter how many.

    The more ridiculous thing is that Rhix is the auto-dismount area, when he's one of the only NPCs there's practically never any reason to visit in person. Hotkey L. Auto-Rhix, everywhere.
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I won't usually dismount when talking to NPCs unless it's crowded(eg, 5+ people on mounts there already) in which case I dismount just to be polite.
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  • trapublicantrapublican Member Posts: 206 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    People actually think you have to go to Rhix to pick up and complete the quests?

    I avoid PE as much as possible since it's a laggy mess and it's full of spam from goldsellers, people who want to exploit dungeons and people trying to sell things that are grossly overpriced. I'd be happy if they put mailboxes somewhere else since then I'd never have to go to PE, I don't even care about the lvl 60 dailies, not worth dealing with PE for such minimal rewards.
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Everyone must feel the effects of server overload by now, and sadly that is just the fuel that is needed to set this normally decent community on edge and heading into ruins... <snip>

    actually, there are a limited number of players divided by "instances" in each zone and i'm sure that number is specified by load balancing. while some players speak of rubberbanding in PE, that is a network issue and not a CPU load issue.
    Recently I saw a very unfortunate display of Community Frustrations/Server Overload that could have been avoided, as one player just took his mount and plowed his way through a good sized dismounted crowd of players, who were just trying to get their mail at the Postal Carrier (near the auction house)...

    there are actually a number of mail boxes around PE, not just the one at the mail courier next to the auction house. if everyone is crowded around one and if that's one of your pet peeves, head to a less crowded one. :)
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  • tornnomartornnomar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Protectors Enclave is the primary place for everyone to show off their mounts. Mounts are also faster than walking.

    And they can be walked through to push yourslf right up the the NPC. You can also switch instances to a lesser crowded one.

    You'll find many threads for, and against autodismounting players at certain areas, but in all reality the devs have bigger fish on their plate before this even appears on their radar.
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Just to add my 2 cents I have never had an issue with people on mounts blocking me from doing anything. With the exception of the Halloween event at 1:00PM when it went live. That was just crazysauce.
  • silver44swordsilver44sword Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Agreed, I see a huge problem especially at the AH when most players are mounted and you have to wait a good amount of time to find the "hidden" auctioneer. People are not considerate in this fashion and it also creates more load on the server, because of the increased character rmodels present.

    NWO needs at least two more servers per region. There is a problem with lag 90% of the time when I visit PE. The community is growing and we are starting to see the WOW and ddo elitist aboard as I notice the reality of the negativity(small)feedback and interactions from players more so now than say a few months back.

    I personally try to dismount when i'm near trade markets due to congestion and feel others should do the same, but most won't unfortunately and I fear.

    I think devs should create an automatic dismount for perimeters around every trade market area.
  • dardovedardove Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    worira wrote: »
    The real issue is that this game inexplicably uses the same button for player interaction and every other kind.

    I bound ++interact to another key so that when I want to interact with something and other players are nearby I can without any worries.
  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Never had a problem clicking any banker, auctioneer, questgiver, etc no matter how many people were there mounted or not. This is not a problem.

    Your comment (above) makes it clearly appear that you''re one of *them*. #nuffsaid.

    What @Ladymythos says.

    I don't think it's an issue of bandwidth and server resources. It's also not much of an issue of being able to actually interact with the intractable. It's an issue of annoyance, nothing more.

    Because it's a virtual world, we tend to place ourselves in that space (consciously or not). And being on your feet and surrounded by all manner of large beast can be rather discomforting. Sometimes, though pretty rare, it *can* be a little difficult to actually interact with the intractable (and instead get the stupid other-player-menu). If Cryptic were to make all NPC intractable (in Protector's Enclave) auto-dismount zones then I'm alright with that. In fact, it's a good idea for no reason other than it's a good idea.

    But only in PE - not combat zones.

    Personally: it does't bother me all that much, but I do consider it a matter of courteousness to dismount in crowded areas. If for no other reason than to show others around a little *respect*.
  • shiralacshiralac Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 139 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Don't spam f, put your target on where the npc should be, wait a sec, the "press f" notification will show up, then press f, there is no reason for anyone to have a problem with it.

    Since open beta I have never had a problem trying to interact with any NPC. Just do as charonous has mentioned and you'll be fine.
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  • fuzzbiterfuzzbiter Member Posts: 0
    edited January 2014
    Talk about a point that doesn't need addressing. You do know that those are not real world horses arses right? Great, no harm done then...
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