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rnewton8
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Just wondering what poeple are choosing for the boons
Elven Haste for 2% AP gain
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Feywild Fortitude for +700 health
I use full Miracle Healer set so extra health sounds nice, but on the other hand, since sunburst got nerfed, I could use a boost to AP gain.
Elven Haste for 2% AP gain
or
Feywild Fortitude for +700 health
I use full Miracle Healer set so extra health sounds nice, but on the other hand, since sunburst got nerfed, I could use a boost to AP gain.
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So, one of them adds 700 HP which based on enchantments equals 175 recovery. (HP is always 4x as high as the other stats.)
The other one adds 2% AP gain which, assuming you're at around 2.5k recovery already, would require around 400 recovery.
The problem with comparing these two tho are that the first one is affected by feats and Constitution, while the second one also would give 2% recharge speed in addition to the AP gain from that amount of recovery.
Exactly the same problems appears when you try to use 2 points in Con contra Cha to find a solution, 2 Con would give around 750-900 HP depending on build. But 2 Cha also gives 2% recharge speed (the other two stats from Cha won't be noticeable at all at 2 Cha more or less, so we ignore them.)
Basically, take what you need/want, they're balanced in the sense that the difference between their strength is small enough for it becoming close to impossible to compare them. I went for HP, as well, I still need to get rid of like 1k recovery, at least, to reach desired levels.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?498601-4th-Boon
gotta add:
The 700HP raise your GS a little bit.
But I've played with Holy Fevor already before, since I got that 2% AP additionally it feels much more faster... (Got 11% from CHA, 15% from Holy Fevor and 2% from that boon, dont know how the math looks behind, but compared to my other cleric running other stats and class features it feels like twice a fast...)
Edit:
Just checked the AP thing:
+33.5 by attributs
+17.3 by buffs
+50.8% in total
Many powers and feats synergize with max HP, so you get even more value out of +HP than just the obvious. Gaining AP as a DC isn't exactly difficult even after the Sunburst rework.
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Also, of course, 700HP vs my ...what, 22k HP is a 3.2% increase, whereas 2% AP gain vs my current 35% (or 50% with holy fervour) AP gain is a 5.7% increase (or 4% w/HolyF).
If I'd stacked HP (which I can of course still do), more HP from boons would be even less beneficial.
Having a Full Miracle did make the HP gain seem attractive, since it would increase healing output from the MH set bonus, but like others have said, it comes down to what u need the most. My healing output is good, and the increase healing from adding 700 HP to a MH set bonus wouldn't be enough to do anything. And with sunburst nerf, everyone needs more AP gain, especially those of us using Feated Hallowed Ground builds for max heals.
I work it the opposite; I used the HP boon to justify removing one of my defensive Radiant enchants since it made up for at least some of the loss, then I slotted Silvery instead. More HP makes Divine Armor, Miracle Healer, Healing Step, and Holy Resolve ALL work better, which I love. Obviously I use all of the above.
I can't imagine using Holy Fervor for anything, so your mileage might be varying since you run it. I just don't see how anyone could tell a difference with just 2% additional AP gain. Then again, I suppose you could argue the same for the 700 HP, but I'll take all the HP I can get.
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Eh?
700hp can't save against burst damage :P
I think it's a choice that depends by the playstyle:
- tanky DC: hp
- others: AP
Unless you're able to maintain HG/DA 100% of the time, which was only barely possible pre-SB nerf (for me, at least), then getting AP faster is always going to be nice.
I'm going with extra stamina, not many ways to increase stamina and don't think 10% from heal pots will be noticable
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(Makes a plus of 70.33hp/sec...)
In my opinion a faster/earlier dodge may safes a potion or more... so that little buff is waste, or to say in other words: +850hp every 12 seconds, that you mostly won't need are waste compared to others...
So, I did a little math and decided that the faster Dodge is not going to save much time and went with the 10% potion heals.
That 10% alone is rarely going to be useful as it is just regenerating 10% faster... which for me equates to 0.03 seconds faster availability of a dodge. In a relative manner, the lag from most people's desktop PC's to the server is barely better than that (1ms or 0.001 second average lag for every 1k miles non-optic line travel).
Point I am trying to make is that the 10% alone is rather useless. Not entirely, but really unnoticable unless you have a strength of 20 to compensate it (gives +10% stamina regeneration or +1% regen per point of strength above 10) and I think it would be better overall if people with a low STR stat use a different boon.
FYI:
Major Potion of Healing = 8500 + (X/8500*10/100) = 8500 + 850 = 9350 with 10% boon.
Major Potion of Rejuvenation = 1214 every 2 for 12 seconds. 1509 HP every 2 for 12 seconds with 10% boon.
Considering the frequency in which one needs to dodge versus the need to pot up, I took the 10% health potion boon. Besides... it works in PvP too hehe (1,100HP for 5sec VS 1,000HP for 5sec).
I do dodge all the time though, so yeah dodge is better. already have 20 strength so the extra 10% is nice and additive.
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if no, then stamina regen is the only worthwhile boon. Don't kill enough to stack/maintain the power buff, Even with decent deflect (i'm not some pvp deflect build, just 11% from stacking defensive stuff that also has deflect on it) don't get hit/deflect enough to make deflect worthwhile.
with 20% stamina regen my DC still isn't quite 3 dodge CW level dodginess but it feels close. like a second or 2 off from the default CW without any stamina improving feats/boons. I haven't busted out a stop watch to compare it or anything, just feels like it's close.
To make it short and sweet: YES!
If you have a 20 or higher Strength, you are getting +10% Stamina Regen already. However, as I stated... "10% alone isn't enough". Not enough to notice anyway. Adding the additional 10% does make a difference however.
PvP, yes. PvE... Only when I go CN, SP or DV dungeoning. I just prefer it more than the strafe for the build I have (also due to having less than 20 STR).
(possibly this is another reason I'm not great at PvP)
But yeah: I'd go stamina all the way. I use pots so rarely that I almost forgot I could do it: "Oh <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, I'm on 10% health and all my heals are on cooldown! What can I do???? Oh, wait."