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Mighty Leap: Discuss
farfig1337
Member Posts: 108 Bounty Hunter
Mighty Leap is the 2nd Aoe damage move a GWF gets and only one of the three total a GWF learns. You throw yourself forward dealing damage to a small but decent area for a melee character. While jumping you briefly dodge any attack directed at you. The damage this move deals is Less than Not-So Fast about 75% more than what your greatsword is listed at. My 14k GWF hits target dummies for 1400 damage non-crit. 3500damage crit with vorpal. It has a 12 second cool down a hit cap of 5 and no reduction in damage for extra targets hit.
Players never uses this move for damage for many reasons. First it is Slow, takes about 2 seconds to activate the attack and deal damage. No matter what your distance is from the target the duration is the same. Meaning mobs have plenty of time to move out of the way if nothing else is holding there attention. You literally do more damage swinging Wicked strike into an area than using Mighty Leap. And the dodge is terrible yo udont even dodge for the full 2 secodns just very briefly immediately after you activate the move.
Since this move is slow I can not see it as a staple damage move. But the damage is also very embarrassing for any move. The only sue Mighty leap has is if your ledge crawling and you need to make a jump that CW's teleport over. It has absolutely no practical use other than that.
Mighty Leap Needs
+50% Damage.
Full Dodge for the duration of the Leap
And a Knock Prone Effect on all targets hit by the attack.
GWF have no Aoe control at all, A little control gives them some useful options. But still nothing compared to a TR's smoke bomb. And this move would be very hard to use in PvP so I doubt it will cause problems there.
Players never uses this move for damage for many reasons. First it is Slow, takes about 2 seconds to activate the attack and deal damage. No matter what your distance is from the target the duration is the same. Meaning mobs have plenty of time to move out of the way if nothing else is holding there attention. You literally do more damage swinging Wicked strike into an area than using Mighty Leap. And the dodge is terrible yo udont even dodge for the full 2 secodns just very briefly immediately after you activate the move.
Since this move is slow I can not see it as a staple damage move. But the damage is also very embarrassing for any move. The only sue Mighty leap has is if your ledge crawling and you need to make a jump that CW's teleport over. It has absolutely no practical use other than that.
Mighty Leap Needs
+50% Damage.
Full Dodge for the duration of the Leap
And a Knock Prone Effect on all targets hit by the attack.
GWF have no Aoe control at all, A little control gives them some useful options. But still nothing compared to a TR's smoke bomb. And this move would be very hard to use in PvP so I doubt it will cause problems there.
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Knock back effect would be cool, but IMO currently pvp is based too much for that kind of powers..
My opinion is that there are other powers/abilities that need looking at more.
And roar is definitely an AoE control. AoE interrupt + a daze is awesome. With the AP regen pre-patch it never left my bar. Now it trades places with Daring shout/Mighty Leap depending on the dungeon.
I tried Mighty Leap after they made it a 'dodge', and straight away found myself hanging in the air with a mage's entangling. It needs a lot more 'dodge' for it to be considered one.
The combat advantage it offers is too weak, and although I would love a prone on it, that may be too powerful. On the other hand, it would make it in-line with the GF's frontline surge. But maybe a small stun and interrupt will make it useful without making it OP.
I have never seen any GWF from the best to the worst ever use Mighty Leap as a AoE damage move. They use it to jump ledges. Sometimes I see GWF's use not so fast, it does more damage and is fast and easy to use. GWFs dont need mobility to chase down mobs in PvE so why use Mighty Leap. The move is slow and hard to target with in PvP. So it has no use there.
Yes this move needs a definite buff. I would prefer to see more damage more Area like a Mini Avalanche of steel, But I guess the knockdown effect kinda adds to that too.
I agree. At least for primary use.
All it needs is the dodge effect to extend from the brief second from initial leap.
So a stun capability (knock prone is too strong a CC, and I see it eventually being removed for various reasons), along with two charges, and the dodge effect extended somewhat.
Keep it as a utility ability instead of trying to turn it into a major encounter power, but give the utility more flexibility.
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