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PvP has become impossible for me to play as Cleric during the last 2 days
wholyhandgrenade
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I had restat my clerics and they were playing good to decent in PvP, but during the last day to day and a half its become near impossible as for some reason now everything is stunning my cleric, everything is one and two hitting my cleric, and I'm barely doing damage against anyone even when using my daily hammer.
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my cleric feels like its the horse, I have two legs (what do you mean everyone else gets four? and how come they get to attack and defend with their front two when I don't even have any)
Soon as I see a cleric in the match I go Knights Challenge for double damage since I am a GF. My goal is to then kill the cleric over and over and over again till he gives up. Now its his teammates job to CC me and peel for you. I usually mount up and drop down on you from above to 1-2 hit you. Then I ride to by your base to try and attack you while you are on your mount so that way you never get set up in your pretty lil shield. Bottom line is we are going hard. Real hard for you. So you better have your team mates protecting you or you will get nuked. Hope that helps.
our powers are turned off almost immediately, we get stunned almost immediately (even being an elf doesn't help), and both of these for a very long time... they buffed fighters in PvP cause they said they were going to be targeting mobs onto their agro, but the cleric receives nothing when everyone knows they are mobbed in PvP ... as to being killed by rogues, what kills us the most is that we are unable to se our powers, or attack or anything for 5 seconds or so from stuff placed upon us during stealth mode and more and more players are having the enchantment that gives 2 to 6 seconds of immunity when health drops below 25% (clerics don't tend to have the damage to avoid triggering that, and during that time the player typically fully heals... clerics have the least amount of heals of any class cause its so hard for them to finish anyone off and their damage is so much lower, looking at damage dealt in the practice area clerics are doing 1/6th the damage of some classes)
Well a geared Cleric is still OP. Also has a good amount of kills from his hammer daily. Which can crit for 15-20k
But that said I have been having decent success as of late. A few other notes..
I mostly do PvP only with guildies. Usually 3-5 of us queuing together.
My slotted abilities...
Class: Foresight & Holy Fervor
Dailies: Hammer of Fate & Hallowed Ground
Encounters: Sun Burst, Astral Shield & Forgemasters Flame or Daunting Light
At Will: Brand of the Sun and Astral Seal
My defense is about 1600 and my power is about 4400.
Typically at the start I make sure Im not in front going into Point 2. Let my teammates hit it first then drop a AS on them on point. We also early in a match identify the rogue or CW that seems to be the best player and we key on that person everytime we see them. Doesnt matter if they have a cleric. If 3-4 people all hit same person at same time they will die.
Save Hammer daily on someone half health or less. Use a pvp regen potion on first fight after you are hit the first time...then it spaces the cooldown out decently if its a close and long match.
That is all pretty obvious stuff I guess. The biggest thing I can tell you is dont stand still. Slide alot. Rogues use a smoke bomb thing that will skill lock you...get out of it quickly. Most of them like to just throw it on the middle of a capture point so hang on the edges. Throw down AS...then put Aseals on everyone along with dots from BotS.
Again just some general tips. We generally win 98% of matches against pugs. Typically the only matches we lose and have really bad scores is when we go up against a few of the ah exploit/dungeon exploit geared players from "Those Guilds". The ones with the Tene enchants etc. Not much you can do about them. At that point skill has nothing to do it with it...its just gear (specifically imbalanced enchants).
DC's are severely lacking for PvP. Yeah you can do good with top gear and friends in top gear with you. Yeah you can do ok here and there versus pugs etc. But they really need to do something to help DC's be more useful then just another 25k crit machine DPS class.
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the cleric was perfectly fine until the patch where they nerfed the cleric into the ground and buffed the fighters all up to high heaven with even more defenses and ways to fully self heal while attacking
that's part of the problem as well, during the last day and a half my daily hammer hasn't been knocking anyone down, I see it do no damage at all or watch it barely move people's health bar anymore... I think the game has been playing with the strength of hammer behind our backs ... if a cleric has something that is working even half way decent it suddenly ceases to work as it did. A geared cleric is certainly not OP, perhaps against a non-geared bad to at best average player in any other class, but is still highly underpowered against any decent (not high) geared and (decent, not great) skilled player of a character of another class
not when they are well geared or controlled by good players
:rolleyes:
Thank you sooooo much for this. I am still laughing.
Ok let try and help you here and find some solutions.
First what gear you have ? I mean are you geared 12k+ Do you have some def, health etc. Rank 7+ in def slots. Lets start there so we know what your working with.
Second. Do you know when not to cast your ability on other players. Like when a GWF cast invunerablility, Do you notice the GF cast Villains menace so you know they have 20% more dmg and immune to CC. If you just casting your skill when someone is immune then that's kinda shame on you. Of course its not gonna work.
I hope that you are on Mindflayer so that you can "try" and 2 shot me with your silly GF /laugh
Barabus The Gray
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Well - you are about the luckiest DC in PVP then. Before I re-structured for recovery, I was sitting over 5k power with right about 1600 defense. The result of this was very nice heals and damage, but you still get curb stomped as soon as the other groups see you.
I was doing very well in PVP until the last major skills patch, when they nerfed DC's and CW's and buffed the GF and GWF lines. As with so many other games - the Dev's can't seem to understand moderation.
No sure what yer problem is with the cleric bud, maybe try a new build. There are countless clerics out there that are near impossible to kill 1 vs 1, and in group fights. Watch some videos, read up on some specs, train
There is nothing wrong at all, with the Devoted Cleric class.
There is however something wrong with you, which is why you cannot play the class. You should play a rogue like everyone else, leave the healing to the big boys =P
no I don't have a 12K+ gear score, nor am I stacked in 7+ enchants, nor do I ever come close to having AD enough to ever become so equipped... I will however accept donations to this cause as I sure in the hell am not going to ever afford that stuff playing on the cleric
nerfing the cleric in several different ways while bolstering the fighter classes so they could tank and go immune and self heal and not need a cleric to tank mobs was a huge insult (they can heal up while fighting instantaniously and for more than a cleric can heal using divine mode)
See this is your problem: saying "lol u just suck, l2p" isn't helpful in the SLIGHTEST, nor does it address the fact that no matter how amazing you personally might be, DCs are still hopelessly outmatched in PvP. You might be absotively amazeballs in PvP, and GOOD FOR YOU, but you are not everyone. Saying "roll a different class if you suck" is essentially saying "yes, DC is totally rubbish inherently, so you should roll another class that's inherently better, and leave 'excelling with the class that is inherently rubbish' to the absolute experts in that class".
And it's not helpful. If the only players who can make a class even 'playable' (and you yourself admit that stunlocks still kill you just like every other DC) are SUPER GUD PLAYARZ then this is bona fide evidence that the class is not comparable to the others.
Just..you know: be a tad more understanding and a little less "lookit meeeeee"?