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WORKING METHODS AGAINST BOTTING and HACKERS in PVP
d3l337
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What is bot - program to control character in game. It is we that allow botters to get profit by not reporting them!
>>> ALWAYS REPORT BOTTERS <<<
HOW TO SPOT A BOT:
1. Currently it does not mount in majority cases - this is powerful clue, but it will most likely change in future.
2. Random movement in Tower circle, line movement everywhere else.
3. Often low level gear - inspect character before PVP match starts, if it has low level Gear it's most likely bot( played would have hell to level not geared character)
4. Too easy to kite.
5. It dies like a fly.
6. It's dumb - attack and run in the line.
7. It does not chat nor respond.
8. Low score (few or none kills, low place in chart)
9. Also a clue, automatically generated character name and dumb account name(not a word, not a nick, just random letters)
10. Bots so far do not doge AOE ATTACKS like Arcane Singularity.
11. Occasionally run into walls
HOW DO I REPORT A BOT or HACKER:
1. press H (? in top bar)
2. Request GM HELP
3. Choose Bahaviour Button
4. Summary - for example PVP BOTTING or PVP HACKING
5. @handle - here you enter account name not character name
6. Description - be as detailed as you can, also enter character name.
7. If you spam garbage reports or continuously accuse innocent be aware that you may get yourself a problem or ban.
8.Press SUBMIT.
FUTURE POSSIBLE ANTI BOT SOLUTIONS:.
1. Gear score rtequirement to enter PVP - too low - we dont want you here - like minimum 36 lv gear for 40 - 49 PVP, minimum lv 56 gear for 60 pvp.
2. Captcha read code(excluded founders pack, nevervinter pack buyers)
3. Text analysis test before joining quene, like 1000 questions. (example one, three, ... , seven - whats missing?)
4. NWN process memory injection scanning module.
5. Bot behaviour pattern analysis, memory injection analysis(reverse engineering).
6. Modifying game exe/dll files, slight protocol modifications to spot botters.
7. Server log automated analysis - mounted times, chatted or not, inspected anyone's gear, hours played, any other NWO instances on that pc - IP(computer name, network computer name analysis), same or skills used, times of last place in chart, damage done, heals done compared to others in pvp)
8. Easy choose abuse in help, easy pick PVP account name.
9. 0XP, 0GLORY FOR LAST TWO PERSONS IN PVP RESULT CHART
IF YOU LIKE MY POST STICKY IT AND/OR DISCUSS IN CIVILIZED MANNER. (Please also point my grammar and language mistakes)
please rename post to WORKING METHODS AGAINST BOTTING and HACKERS in PVP
EDIT:Thank you for that.
>>> ALWAYS REPORT BOTTERS <<<
HOW TO SPOT A BOT:
1. Currently it does not mount in majority cases - this is powerful clue, but it will most likely change in future.
2. Random movement in Tower circle, line movement everywhere else.
3. Often low level gear - inspect character before PVP match starts, if it has low level Gear it's most likely bot( played would have hell to level not geared character)
4. Too easy to kite.
5. It dies like a fly.
6. It's dumb - attack and run in the line.
7. It does not chat nor respond.
8. Low score (few or none kills, low place in chart)
9. Also a clue, automatically generated character name and dumb account name(not a word, not a nick, just random letters)
10. Bots so far do not doge AOE ATTACKS like Arcane Singularity.
11. Occasionally run into walls
HOW DO I REPORT A BOT or HACKER:
1. press H (? in top bar)
2. Request GM HELP
3. Choose Bahaviour Button
4. Summary - for example PVP BOTTING or PVP HACKING
5. @handle - here you enter account name not character name
6. Description - be as detailed as you can, also enter character name.
7. If you spam garbage reports or continuously accuse innocent be aware that you may get yourself a problem or ban.
8.Press SUBMIT.
FUTURE POSSIBLE ANTI BOT SOLUTIONS:.
1. Gear score rtequirement to enter PVP - too low - we dont want you here - like minimum 36 lv gear for 40 - 49 PVP, minimum lv 56 gear for 60 pvp.
2. Captcha read code(excluded founders pack, nevervinter pack buyers)
3. Text analysis test before joining quene, like 1000 questions. (example one, three, ... , seven - whats missing?)
4. NWN process memory injection scanning module.
5. Bot behaviour pattern analysis, memory injection analysis(reverse engineering).
6. Modifying game exe/dll files, slight protocol modifications to spot botters.
7. Server log automated analysis - mounted times, chatted or not, inspected anyone's gear, hours played, any other NWO instances on that pc - IP(computer name, network computer name analysis), same or skills used, times of last place in chart, damage done, heals done compared to others in pvp)
8. Easy choose abuse in help, easy pick PVP account name.
9. 0XP, 0GLORY FOR LAST TWO PERSONS IN PVP RESULT CHART
IF YOU LIKE MY POST STICKY IT AND/OR DISCUSS IN CIVILIZED MANNER. (Please also point my grammar and language mistakes)
please rename post to WORKING METHODS AGAINST BOTTING and HACKERS in PVP
EDIT:Thank you for that.
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10. Bots so far do not doge AOE ATTACKS.
We should be able to post botting acussations along with description here. Botting PVE single player and PVP is so common that it will not spread it further!
Would also be nice to have max lvl pvp bracketed by gs as well. Pvping as a fresh 60 is just suicidal now.
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Maybe the job of detecting bots is not so easy.
Certainly its not easy to describe.
So you even don't communicate? Like for me you troll on behalf of botters or it's a joke.
Also I came with Idea of 0 XP and 0 Glory for last 2 in bracket to motivate people and cut off bot profits.
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There were and most likely there are. Some time ago i met TR that dodged 99% of attacks. Theer is nothing but a cheat i tried to kil him for a whole pvp match.
No, not really a joke unless you find it funny, in which case I am happy to be entertaining.
I merely wanted to point out that you may be describing a bot but you are also describing someone who is not good at PVP. Perhaps you are fine with the thought that those people don’t deserve to be in PVP. Perhaps you believe they should get nothing for trying and failing.
But imagine for a moment that you are not a single self interested person in charge of only yourself and barely that.
Imagine instead that you are in charge of all the PVP, you are in charge of the whole PVP portion of the program and you want as many people to play your portion of the program as possible. You want veterans to come play PVP and you want PVE people to come play PVP. You even want new people who have never played before to come play PVP.
Does it sound like a good thing to take people who might be interested in PVP and punish them for coming in last, not knowing exactly where to go or exactly what to do? Do you think having fewer people play PVP will help make PVP better? Is it your intention to actively discourage people and drive them away from PVP?
I don’t think those things would help make PVP better. And so I caution against calling for strictures that would punish players for being new or bad.
The other pros will be punishment enough for that.
Human driven toon does not walk in long straight lines never ever, nor move in pattern manner.
we yet have another patch today 'suposidly' with fix's, but yet all we get is even more bugs, its a shame this game was great in Beta and had so much potential to be realy big, but now every day that passes just brings more problems and more bugs that never get fixed until its way too late,
realy great work PW you actualy had a great game on your hands, shame your actualy ruining it yourselves. lol
What if you are human acting like a Bot to throw players off. Then bam nuke em. Haha you thought I was a bot. Nub.
You are trying to convince that there are other ways to detect a bot. Are you aware that most PVP bots are just plain obvious? Even bad PVPers will improve over time, unless the PVPer is intentionally trolling the team.
A level 50 TR wearing only level 10 gears enters PVP. Go, try to convince other players that this is not a bot. Anyone intelligent enough to play Neverwinter WILL BE intelligent enough to upgrade gears guadually. If it is a REAL player, will still be reported for trying to troll the whole team by getting one shot with that kind of gear.
Add : Reporting bots before PVP - Go to Blacklake campfire. If you see a TR / groups of TR just standing there, inspect them. If it is a lvl 30+ TR wearing only level 10 gears, you know who they are. Intelligent players will upgrade their gears over time.
Of course there may be other possibilities, like it is a real TR who either does not know how to wear new armor (really... knows how to wear level 10 gears, but not higher?) or intentionally trolling by wearing very low level armor just to act like a bot.
Well this is not hard enough evidence sadly. But gear score requirement to join pvp is good idea.