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Domination Botting Problem - Rediscuss

krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I apologize if this is a violation of the forum rules, since the original thread was closed.

I have a question/suggestion

In this post

http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?358521-Bots-Bots-and-More-Bots

a mechanism similiar to captcha was cleverly submitted by a poster to try to reduce bots in domination, several posters attempt to dismiss this as a potential solution and even claimed that this would eventually be overcome by bot programmers.

I can see the logic of their arguments however, I think with some creativity all of those counter arguments could be dismissed.

For example, if a system was implemented that asked the player something like this:

Solve the following equation: some random generated number + random generated picture of a number of dots = ?

I've seen something like this used in place of captcha

Is this still easily defeatable and predictable?
"I never make mistakes, I once thought I did but I was wrong"
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  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I have the hardest time trying to read the randomly used letters and numbers that applications use. I think on average I cycle through about 30 options just trying to find one that I think I can correctly guess at.
  • surfaksurfak Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2013
    We are already pressing k to que, and shift+1 to join. Why not just add a few more clicks that are easy to press.

    One popup box could ask 'which is a circle' and the options to select are a square, circle, triangle, etc. Something that changes each time so botters can't easily get around it.

    By the way ... can anyone tell me how bots leave the PvP Map immediatly when it ends? I can't leave in a 1/100 of a second like they do as you have to wait a few seconds before the Results pops up and then click exit. But by the time I click exit they have already zoned out and sometimes left the party by then?? Is there a /leave command somewhere that I just cannot find .. i even searched the command list the other day.
  • krahctkrahct Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I have the hardest time trying to read the randomly used letters and numbers that applications use. I think on average I cycle through about 30 options just trying to find one that I think I can correctly guess at.

    I feel ya :cool:

    What I'm getting at is I think some combination of a numbers and a picture randomly generate would help to complicate the process of authenticating a player controlled character vs a computer controlled one. I know, there are sophisticated programs that can do both and do the math, but come on really, are these bot programs that advanced?
    "I never make mistakes, I once thought I did but I was wrong"
  • cinj216cinj216 Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've played an MMO that would throw captchas at you right in the middle of a dungeon (didn't deter bots in the slightest, btw), and let me tell you: if Cryptic ever for once even considers the idea of including something so stupid in this game, I'm out.
  • kevinf08kevinf08 Member Posts: 432 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    Starting to see bots at level 60 again, I hope other people are reporting them as well to get the problem some attention.
  • rangurenranguren Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2013
    nice thinking, but let me ask first, have you ever see those kind of checker exists on any action-MMOs not just point-n-click type? cause, it is hard enough to chat and battle, not to mention need/greed/pass on dungeon. add this mechanism is suicide ...
  • lichlamentlichlament Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    on Mindflayer....

    Susanmii@Susanmii is a common bot you will see in matches all day

    there is a few others... I will name them when i run into them each time on this forum
  • morsitansmorsitans Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,284 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    cinj216 wrote: »
    I've played an MMO that would throw captchas at you right in the middle of a dungeon

    That is the craziest idea ever.

    "Foolish mortals! You dare awaken me from my eternal slumber! I shall destroy thee.....unless you can type the following: flange interofiip. I will also say the words out loud for the visually impaired."
  • xaiim7xaiim7 Member Posts: 40
    edited June 2013
    I have very funny PvP. Five players just jumping... realy funny :) or just sad ...
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