Place Marker as "DM Text Triggers"

redneckronin · June 2013

Ok, so I have a problem that my limited experience of the Foundry tool-set is not letting me solve.

I want to use a Place Marker so that if the player enters a certain room it delivers a little bit of "DM Text" without the player needing to interact with anything at all, and without having to use a "Reach Point" Quest Objective.

Is this possible.

Someone in Foundry Chat mentioned using the Placer Marker to trigger an event "off screen" but didn't elaborate on how to use that to deliver "DM Text".

Am I just being an idiot here and not seeing the obvious?

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guitarzan698 · June 2013

Hey, that's easy bro.. you need to do this as a quest objective so it's done on the storyboard. Just drag the 'reach point' objective to the correct place in your storyboard. Then fill in the text and radius you need. Then place it or associate it to the correct place on your map. Simple.

redneckronin · June 2013

guitarzan698 wrote: »

Hey, that's easy bro.. you need to do this as a quest objective so it's done on the storyboard. Just drag the 'reach point' objective to the correct place in your storyboard. Then fill in the text and radius you need. Then place it or associate it to the correct place on your map. Simple.

But if I do that there will be a "quest objective" that the player needs to reach, I don't want that. This is in a room the player has no need to enter, its just "detail". I don't want to guide the player there, I want them to find it via exploration.

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guitarzan698 · June 2013

yep... turn off the golden path for that objective. Well, It will still be an objective but they won't see the trail. Otherwise I suppose you would have to make it an invisible clicky... I know it's clunky but I can't think of another way. If you do it as a conversation with an invisible clicky.. you can at least put the text up in different colors.. ie, Quest text, OOC text, or dialogue text.

lolsorhand · June 2013

guitarzan698 wrote: »

yep... turn off the golden path for that objective. Well, It will still be an objective but they won't see the trail. Otherwise I suppose you would have to make it an invisible clicky... I know it's clunky but I can't think of another way. If you do it as a conversation with an invisible clicky.. you can at least put the text up in different colors.. ie, Quest text, OOC text, or dialogue text.

Invisible clickies for those things aren't that bad if you have players who play a map for its story.. Otherwise you might get complaints.

redneckronin · June 2013

No takers on this?

How to deliver "DM Text" (System Notice) without the need for direct interaction from the player?

I am 100% certain I have seen it done in one of the Foundries I have played, but can't recall which one.

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zoiks100 · June 2013

Far as I know the only way is via reach point quest objectives. I suppose you could have an off-screen npc chat something, but that would be pretty awkward with the chat bubble, and not sure you could keep them from repeating it. Or possibly the name of an invisible interactable/NPC in the player's field of vision, also pretty awkward though.

Interact failures also give system messages but obviously require the player interacts with something, which you don't want.

glantorx · June 2013

Yep only way is a reach point, you can put a space in the name quest text box and your DM_TEXT in the reach text box, that way at least no text is visible in the quest list. On and turn waypoints off.

redneckronin · June 2013

Problem with putting in it the quest chain is that objectives that come after it won't activate until it is complete.

So without waypoints all you do is create a choke-point that stalls overall progression without giving the player any clue as to why.

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pixelb0x · June 2013

You may want to try NW-DHZ5DAV4R - the DM's Studio, by Mosby1. I seem to remember he demonstrated how to execute DM text by using an "objective failed" event. (The text appeared on screen in red). Even if I saw that elsewhere, his tutorial is worth running.

swordsworn · June 2013

And dosnt the objective always say complete at the end? "turn back danger lies ahead":complete

Only thing I could think of is be creative add a sign Like a "beware the ogre". or a invisable interacactive. "this place gives me the kreeps. Maby I should turn back." Even a interactable abject to move out to the way to advance and you could add in "dragging the fallen pipe out of the way you hear a odd noise... Maby this is not such a great Idea" hmm it might need to be an objective, but then maby you could drop a rusty pc of pipe on interact, and despawn the pipe if player has item rusty pc of pipe? Would have to try it.

thehuntress · June 2013

What I've thought of using was using an asset and having the PC interact with it using the class skill. Like a mage discerning crushed crystals which then leads to a DM descriptive.

mosby1 · June 2013

pixelb0x wrote: »

You may want to try NW-DHZ5DAV4R - the DM's Studio, by Mosby1. I seem to remember he demonstrated how to execute DM text by using an "objective failed" event. (The text appeared on screen in red). Even if I saw that elsewhere, his tutorial is worth running.

That was probably the portal "labels", but it was via an interactable. I don't know of any way to automatically trigger it, other than the way-point objective.

One UGC I played (sorry, can't recall which one) used interactable books to provide DM/flavor text.

It was a little strange with the first book (seemingly just there for no reason), but by the end of the quest, I thought it was a very good idea, and worked well.

Place Marker as "DM Text Triggers"

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