So you've hinted your next class is going to be a "ranged class" if I had to put money on it I would wager it was the ranged Rogue build from the Players Handbook 1.. However why you are putting more dps in before utilities such as the other healer class is beyond me.
This is me asking you to please, please, please get the Battle Cleric up and running and in asap. Those of us that would rather be a mace and shield wielding front line healer would be super happy if you did this.
So other players and Clerics waiting (im)patiently for a battle Cleric let's bug and nag a bit for the class we actually want to play. While DC is fun.. it's the class I had to settle for, not the class i wanted to play!
If they can't even make ONE healing class work properly yet, it seems a little overeager to ask for two.
They probably don't understand what we mean by "Battle" Cleric. I mean, why would we need more than one healing class in the first place??? Why would a Cleric want to swing a Greatsword, or wear Heavy Armor and use a shield??? That doesn't help you be a hjealbot/buffbot at all... /sarcasm
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ausdoerrtMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
Except that most cleric options in 4e don't come with shields. Battle Cleric doesn't, IIRC. I think there may be one that does, but I forget.
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warsirenMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
If they can't even make ONE healing class work properly yet, it seems a little overeager to ask for two.
I knew there was going to be at least one of these, *sigh* It's a completely different playstyle, the more playstyles you appeal to the more likely you will have people playing healers.
It's also the main cleric people usually make when they make Clerics in DnD.. I still am trying to figure out why they went with DC over BC first.
BC's are the Iconic Cleric, when people think of Clerics.
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warsirenMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 2Arc User
Except that most cleric options in 4e don't come with shields. Battle Cleric doesn't, IIRC. I think there may be one that does, but I forget.
Yeah Shield Clerics.. unless you're a Dwrf which I usually am, and then you can just Warhammer and Shield... with a Battle Cleric, which I usually do (which is why I had a lapse that BC's don't really use shields..but hell I'll gladly accept Two Handed Hammer time!!!), that or a Mordenkrad, if I decide to go 2 handed.
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nwrogueMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
You do realized it's already been confirmed the next 2 classes are Archer Ranger and Scourge Warlock, right? How do you totally miss that?
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i would rather have a druid that can act as a Buffer/debuffer and sub-healer by creating special potions or Area healing/buff/debuffs by putting totems
You do realized it's already been confirmed the next 2 classes are Archer Ranger and Scourge Warlock, right? How do you totally miss that?
Mind linking your source? Cause all I saw was a Hint that the next class will be ranged, and people are assuming Ranger, though I'm more inclined to believe Crossbow rogue.. Regardless Please link the source of this from an official cryptic quote.
Nah, they'll probably one up themselves. It'll be 80% reduced heals. :P
While I do think Righteousness sucks, I really think you guys are over emphasizing it and blowing it out of proportions like many did with the AS Bug Change. Like I said I'm all for it being removed but it's totally workaroundable, and I'd accept it on my BC if I had to to get a BC!
While I do think Righteousness sucks, I really think you guys are over emphasizing it and blowing it out of proportions like many did with the AS Bug Change. Like I said I'm all for it being removed but it's totally workaroundable, and I'd accept it on my BC if I had to to get a BC!
Well 40% is quite a chunk. I mean if we're giving out a H.O.T to our allies, 500 for 10 secs we'll be losing 2000 hp. I guess when they made the DC they had Martyrs in mind.
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elwardenfMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 3Arc User
Well 40% is quite a chunk. I mean if we're giving out a H.O.T to our allies, 500 for 10 secs we'll be losing 2000 hp. I guess when they made the DC they had Martyrs in mind.
Heaven forbid I compare the cleric class with another game (*cough* LOTRO) but minis in that games (a while back) had a similar mechanism if you want warchant mode. That is, if you wanted to go warchant stance, you would have self healing penalty, but you also got increases with dps and damage. Here, all I see is a HEALING PENALTY.
Secondly, is this penalty that we get here, something that Cryptic made, since while I dont know much about 4e rules (I only played in the 1980s) I cannot recall any features in the DND itself? (I could be wrong)
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They probably don't understand what we mean by "Battle" Cleric. I mean, why would we need more than one healing class in the first place??? Why would a Cleric want to swing a Greatsword, or wear Heavy Armor and use a shield??? That doesn't help you be a hjealbot/buffbot at all... /sarcasm
I knew there was going to be at least one of these, *sigh* It's a completely different playstyle, the more playstyles you appeal to the more likely you will have people playing healers.
It's also the main cleric people usually make when they make Clerics in DnD.. I still am trying to figure out why they went with DC over BC first.
BC's are the Iconic Cleric, when people think of Clerics.
Yeah Shield Clerics.. unless you're a Dwrf which I usually am, and then you can just Warhammer and Shield... with a Battle Cleric, which I usually do (which is why I had a lapse that BC's don't really use shields..but hell I'll gladly accept Two Handed Hammer time!!!), that or a Mordenkrad, if I decide to go 2 handed.
But yeah, the very next class to come out is 99% definitely going to be the Archer Ranger, if the State of the Game's hint is accurate.
Mind linking your source? Cause all I saw was a Hint that the next class will be ranged, and people are assuming Ranger, though I'm more inclined to believe Crossbow rogue.. Regardless Please link the source of this from an official cryptic quote.
Nah, they'll probably one up themselves. It'll be 80% reduced heals. :P
While I do think Righteousness sucks, I really think you guys are over emphasizing it and blowing it out of proportions like many did with the AS Bug Change. Like I said I'm all for it being removed but it's totally workaroundable, and I'd accept it on my BC if I had to to get a BC!
Well 40% is quite a chunk. I mean if we're giving out a H.O.T to our allies, 500 for 10 secs we'll be losing 2000 hp. I guess when they made the DC they had Martyrs in mind.
Heaven forbid I compare the cleric class with another game (*cough* LOTRO) but minis in that games (a while back) had a similar mechanism if you want warchant mode. That is, if you wanted to go warchant stance, you would have self healing penalty, but you also got increases with dps and damage. Here, all I see is a HEALING PENALTY.
Secondly, is this penalty that we get here, something that Cryptic made, since while I dont know much about 4e rules (I only played in the 1980s) I cannot recall any features in the DND itself? (I could be wrong)