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Crafting have to be reworked

musashinokamimusashinokami Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
And I'm not asking this cause you constantly out level the content you can craft even if using the Gateway as much as you can.

Exemple : from craft rank 2 to craft rank 5 you can create items for level 16 (GWF since it's the class I'm playin) meaning you NEED to level 3 craft RANKS during your level 16 to benefit of the full content you may be interested in, or what's the point ?

Who the hell could have had the stupid idea to put items of the same level on 3 craft ranks wide ..? Why not having made rank 3 = lvl 14 item, rank 4 = lvl 15 items and lvl 16 = rank 5 items.

This is just silly you need to fill up 3 entire craft ranks just to choose the boots you want or choose between 2 to 3 armour JUST for your level 16.

Are you silly cryptic devs ?
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Gemmed shirts and pants are the only things worth physically crafting. Leadership is the only crafting profession that isn't ultra silly with terribad rewards.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    Gemmed shirts and pants are the only things worth physically crafting. Leadership is the only crafting profession that isn't ultra silly with terribad rewards.

    Aaaand /thread.
    Cryptic really went over themselves with crafting being money sink. It is an endless hole.
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I forgot to say, don't collect leadership astral diamonds through the gateway. You won't always receive them.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • musashinokamimusashinokami Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    I forgot to say, don't collect leadership astral diamonds through the gateway. You won't always receive them.

    GODDAMIT !!! Thanks for the info Oo.

    This game cumulate too many issues in too many mechanics to be enjoyable still, even though being completly free.

    I think I'm going to pass my turn as least until some more features have been reworked and added to actually figure out what it's going to look like...

    I won't even bother to ask anymore for anything : too much work to do for devs to actually fix the issues.
  • neyph69neyph69 Banned Users Posts: 150 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    I forgot to say, don't collect leadership astral diamonds through the gateway. You won't always receive them.

    This makes sense since i just collected 3 of the "Defend the Mines" task or whatever its called. The one that gives 1600 AD. I never actualyl received the AD though...
  • bpskibbenheimsbpskibbenheims Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 210 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    neyph69 wrote: »
    This makes sense since i just collected 3 of the "Defend the Mines" task or whatever its called. The one that gives 1600 AD. I never actualyl received the AD though...

    Don't know why but roughad collected via the gateway is just becoming as without you refining it ingame. At least that's what is happening to me.
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  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    You need to actually log into the game for the AD to show up (in refined form). Yeah it's weird that way.
  • bellaralodunbellaralodun Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Did anyone happen to see the new profession on the PTR?.... yea :D I'm happy about the new profession changes.
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    bellaralodun wrote: »
    Did anyone happen to see the new profession on the PTR?.... yea :D I'm happy about the new profession changes.

    Any patch notes ?
  • starkaosstarkaos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Are you sure you are checking the right item? You are supposed to get Rough Astral Diamonds from Leadership not Refined Astral Diamonds. You need to log in to refine them so if you are just looking through at the Astral Diamond balance through the Gateway, then you won't see any change.
  • imivoimivo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,682 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    There is a bit of a discrepancy between character leveling and profession leveling speed, though it's a relatively minor issue because the market for sub-60 level items is very limited. You also find a lot of gear while just questing. The stats bonuses of the green shirts and pants are also tiny. There are some blue helmets and such that probably can be sold, but again, it's something to best do at 60 when you craft them for selling and not for your own use.

    There's definitely room for tweaks, but overall I think professions aren't really in terrible need for an overhaul. They are more like mini games than an essential aspect.
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  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    Crafting in this game is a huge AD pit. You need to blow massive chunks of AD (for the tools and assets) to get to the end (max) before it will give you any sort of credible returns.

    Green tools = between 40-80K AD each
    Blue tools = 200-280K AD each
    Purple tools = 900-1M AD each
    Green person asset = 20-30K AD
    Blue person asset = 30-60K AD
    Purple person asset = 200-350K AD

    Personally I took me around roughly 41 days and 300-400K AD to max Mailsmithing. I didn't use any script or bot. Just daily 8-12 hours of normal harvesting and crafting.
  • tinukedatinukeda Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've found the crafting to be completely useless for anything other than shirts/pants (and even then, you can buy mid/high versions of those for a couple gold). Anything craftable has been significantly worse than the random green drops I'd find, not to mention way behind in level. Even the remotely good craftable gear is iffy AND it usually requires a rare/expensive component (shards/crystals/etc); you can get better gear off the AH for the same price as that 1 component usually. $0.02
  • starkaosstarkaos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    I forgot to say, don't collect leadership astral diamonds through the gateway. You won't always receive them.

    This is completely false. Just checked it and Gateway gives Rough Astral Diamonds as specified. You need to log in to convert Rough Astral Diamonds to Astral Diamonds.
  • jaymadiv#8056 jaymadiv
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         Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Alchemy is coming. can't wait.

    Heal + Regen potions ftw.

    finally a useful non-Leadership Profession.
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  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited June 2013
    jmadfour wrote: »
    Alchemy is coming. can't wait.

    Heal + Regen potions ftw.

    finally a useful non-Leadership Profession.

    Those dyes will be a big seller.
  • jaymadiv#8056 jaymadiv
    jaymadiv#8056
         Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chronomancer wrote: »
    Those dyes will be a big seller.

    yep.

    the Dyes and and the Distilled Potions will be the big sellers.
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  • broherdreadbroherdread Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    This is completely false. Just checked it and Gateway gives Rough Astral Diamonds as specified. You need to log in to convert Rough Astral Diamonds to Astral Diamonds.


    It doesnt always give you the rough AD. In the gateway shows that some tasks give rough AD but when you complete those task in the gateway it goes give them to you.
  • jihancritiasjihancritias Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chronomancer wrote: »
    Those dyes will be a big seller.

    Maybe for a few days, and for those that level by paying for it. Everyone and their mother will be running alchemy. It won't take long at all for costs to drop.
    TL : DR? Then don't waste my time responding.
  • illessenillessen Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 44
    edited June 2013
    broherdread wrote: »
    It doesnt always give you the rough AD. In the gateway shows that some tasks give rough AD but when you complete those task in the gateway it goes give them to you.

    It does, the only problem is rough AD goes poof after you've been logged out for more than 5mins, even through the game... The issue here is likely that rAD gets auto refined at 10 mins after you've claimed them in the gateway. But if you've logged out sooner than 5 mins, the rAD goes poof before the gateway has a chance to auto refine them. At least that's my guess as to why people rarely actually get their diamonds when they claim them via the gateway.

    Try this, claim the diamonds via the gateway then log instantly into the account, they're rough diamonds. But there has been some proof that gateway does in fact auto refine them(people have noticed that they gain AD after stints of crafting through the gateway), we just don't know why it doesn't refine 100% of the time.
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