Stalwart Bulwark Set

mhblis1 · May 2013

Can someone tell me if this is a bugged T1 set or is it just really good gear that we can use from 38 onwards that overpowers many of the later sets?

I bought the one piece I could afford today since it was 5kAD on a 3min till time out. And what and upgrade it was.

shadok92 · May 2013

Since damage is necessary to hold threat, Stalwart Bulwark is currently our BiS gear set. Honestly, I don't think the devs realized just how amazing it was compared to every single other set when they created the set bonus. No other T1 or T2 sets come anywhere near Stalwart Bulwark, it's literally mathematically impossible in reference to damage. The level requirement for the pieces is honestly probably a bug. That, or they thought it would be cute to give T1 armor low level requirements and <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off perfectionists like myself who get bugged by the fact that we need to wear low level armor with ****ty stats just so we can have a useful set bonus.

rb1641 · May 2013

Can anyone confirm that you can or can not use this at 38?

fauust01 · May 2013

Yes u can but only 1 part of set other parts are for 42 , 49 and 50 + level so whole set can be useable around 52 ~~

cariborne666 · May 2013

I really feel they should move the 4set to a Higher Level Set, and not quite as huge. 2% and stacking 5 times seems a bit better once they get Threat under control, otherwise people will just stay with this gear all the time.

supjeremiah · May 2013

shadok92 wrote: »

Since damage is necessary to hold threat, Stalwart Bulwark is currently our BiS gear set. Honestly, I don't think the devs realized just how amazing it was compared to every single other set when they created the set bonus. No other T1 or T2 sets come anywhere near Stalwart Bulwark, it's literally mathematically impossible in reference to damage. The level requirement for the pieces is honestly probably a bug. That, or they thought it would be cute to give T1 armor low level requirements and <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> off perfectionists like myself who get bugged by the fact that we need to wear low level armor with ****ty stats just so we can have a useful set bonus.

Yeaahh you can do more damage with other sets.

fauust01 · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Yeaahh you can do more damage with other sets.

Timeless hero for egzample

mhblis1 · May 2013

Ok so it's T1? but the low requirements is probably a bug. Until you can farm for Timeless it is pretty much BiS which means as a GF I could be effectively be end game geared by 52?

As a side note the weapon is only 38 as well.
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My next questions are these.

1. The steel and unicorn affixes do they count as part of the set?
2. Do they drop out of the same instance meaning you can get screwed out of a set piece?

dubimire · May 2013

I have searched and I cant find out exactly where this set comes from(what instances drop each piece). Can someone post a link or give some insight where this gear comes from?

supjeremiah · May 2013

dubimire wrote: »

I have searched and I cant find out exactly where this set comes from(what instances drop each piece). Can someone post a link or give some insight where this gear comes from?

Helm - Mad Dragon
Chest - Idris
Gloves - Cloak Tower
Boots - Crag Crypts

shadok92 · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Yeaahh you can do more damage with other sets.

Anyone who uses Timeless Hero in PvE apparently failed math in school. It is mathematically impossible for the set to do more damage than Stalwart Bulwark if used correctly, the way that the instances on Timeless Hero stack from encounters makes it physically impossible to do more damage if you have all of the same gear as someone else aside from your actual 4 piece. However, you do have the potential to hit harder in PvP under the right circumstances since PvP relies more on burst than sustained damage. In PvE the burst from Timeless Hero is roflmfao bad compared to the sustained damage from Stalwart Bulwark.

chunkienoodle26 · May 2013

Well show us your math then.

cihuacoatl · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Helm - Mad Dragon
Chest - Idris
Gloves - Cloak Tower
Boots - Crag Crypts

I also got a pair of boots from T2 Frozen from DD chest.

supjeremiah · May 2013

shadok92 wrote: »

Anyone who uses Timeless Hero in PvE apparently failed math in school. It is mathematically impossible for the set to do more damage than Stalwart Bulwark if used correctly, the way that the instances on Timeless Hero stack from encounters makes it physically impossible to do more damage if you have all of the same gear as someone else aside from your actual 4 piece. However, you do have the potential to hit harder in PvP under the right circumstances since PvP relies more on burst than sustained damage. In PvE the burst from Timeless Hero is roflmfao bad compared to the sustained damage from Stalwart Bulwark.

Math doesnt always translate to real life buddy. If you're running with a competent group you won't be getting hit enough to keep the stacks up for every encounter. Even if you do, which you shouldn't, a normal pull lasts for ~10 seconds before the mobs die and your burst in 10 seconds with Timeless is better than the sustained damage Stalwart has. The only time I get keep full stacks and fights last long enough for the damage to meet Timeless is on multi golem pulls in Frozen Heart.

odrzyja0 · May 2013

How much GS i would have in Bulwark compared to Timeless ? its show any difference ? i know GS is pointless but im curious

including lesser soulforge, mid plaguefire, cat and all enchants 6 lvl

sanctumlol · May 2013

supjeremiah wrote: »

Yeaahh you can do more damage with other sets.

STOP. We're talking about PvE here. Timeless is only more dmg vs bosses where you don't get hit.

sanctumlol · May 2013

odrzyja0 wrote: »

How much GS i would have in Bulwark compared to Timeless ? its show any difference ? i know GS is pointless but im curious

including lesser soulforge, mid plaguefire, cat and all enchants 6 lvl

Timeless will give you a ****load more GS. Less dps though.

sanctumlol · May 2013

chunkienoodle26 wrote: »

Well show us your math then.

[url]Https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ar5bzJruCOoOdC11aG5nNnRDdE8xaEdhSVhLMHB0Nmc&output=xls[/url]

This is not 100% accurate yet, but it's close enough.

Sorry for not using multiquote, didn't know there were so many confused individuals.

lordhorde · May 2013

I just finished my stalwart set today and am a little confused. Using my mixmatch armor set I had equipped gave me around 6k power, switching to stalwarts brings me down to a little over 3k power and that`s with the cong tree and combat superiority. Now I know my damage will be less until I start getting hit and it is noticeably less that I can tell the difference. My problem is that once the procs off the stalwart go off and stack I get around 9-10k power and my damage really isn`t going up per hit or improving. I thought my damage would at least spike up to the area it was when I used my mixmatch set for the duration of the buff but it isn`t. I do get more survivability with the stalwart but even with max stacks of the buff that give me 4k more power then the mixmatch set I am still doing less damage then with the mixmatch set.

I know the set was adjusted because it gave too much power but for me I am not seeing any increase in damage dealt but actually less damage on my hits. It`s taken a few weeks to get the set completed and am disappointed at the result. Has anyone else encountered this?

Stalwart Bulwark Set

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