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sycoqueensycoqueen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I am a level 60 CW. I'm always got 1 shot by TR in arena, before I could realize what happened.

Is CW too weak?
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  • helloccchelloccc Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
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    Yes, it is.
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Aaaaaaaaand /thread
  • zxenoszxenos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Rogues are easily kited: you have range and 20 kinds of CC, and comparable damage on your normal attacks. Just dodge the Dazing Strikes and choke them whenever you can.
  • drakadraka Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2013
    helloccc wrote: »

    Yes, it is.

    Clearly, OVER9000...
  • harming18harming18 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 74
    edited May 2013
    helloccc wrote: »
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    Yes, it is.

    you forgot to put in the picture of GF's abusing their 4 set piece for 1Mil + damage also.
    BTW both of these exploits have been removed from the game.
    Best Advice I can give to the OP is work on dodging rogues from stealth. It takes practice but will save you.
  • clannamuirclannamuir Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 217 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    sycoqueen wrote: »
    I am a level 60 CW. I'm always got 1 shot by TR in arena, before I could realize what happened.

    Is CW too weak?

    Don't just stand there, Use your teleport and shoot whatever mouse button attacks at them afterwards.
  • edge1986edge1986 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 647 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    sycoqueen wrote: »
    I am a level 60 CW. I'm always got 1 shot by TR in arena, before I could realize what happened.

    Is CW too weak?

    Play a GWF then we can talk about what class is weak.
  • harming18harming18 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 74
    edited May 2013
    Heres my old CW PvP guide it may help.
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?245542-60-CW-pvp-tips-tricks-PRIDE-Dragon&p=3214432#post3214432
    I have since quit pvp though due to a certain stupidly op item that some people are starting to use in arenas now.
    Best of luck to you.
  • jpnolejpnole Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sycoqueen wrote: »
    I am a level 60 CW. I'm always got 1 shot by TR in arena, before I could realize what happened.

    Is CW too weak?

    No, but TRs will be getting a nerf to some abilities at some point. That should be obvious to anyone who has PVPd extensively. My CW hit 60 on 5/27. Throughout the leveling and since I hit max, I have killed many rogues and have also been stun locked and 1 or 2 shotted by many rogues. They are clearly OP except of course to those who play them. If you can dodge them, they can be beaten. If they get the drop on you, you are done.
  • elyrielleelyrielle Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    CW can practically do the same thing with Ice Knife.
  • walk2kwalk2k Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    zxenos wrote: »
    Rogues are easily kited: you have range and 20 kinds of CC, and comparable damage on your normal attacks. Just dodge the Dazing Strikes and choke them whenever you can.
    olollo kite.. range what range? when they turn invis and close in on you stunlock you and do 10k dmg in 1 shot get back to me about "kite" .. rofl that's funny...

    so sad that rog are better than CONTROL wizard at cc AND do 10x dmg
  • kristingravekristingrave Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It just takes time to learn how to dodge them. Given there will always be good TRs out there, in which case dodge away from them as fast as possible back into your team. That way they will stealth again more likely and you can run off to find a pot. Good TRs are a ***** to 1v1 no matter what. One key thing is to never stay still while fighting them. As far as CW being weak, were not, TR can one shot you sure but thats due to their crit stacking.
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    Lift me up..
    Panda@kristingrave - CW - Dragon
    Death@healxyou - DC - Dragon
  • kristingravekristingrave Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    walk2k wrote: »
    olollo kite.. range what range? when they turn invis and close in on you stunlock you and do 10k dmg in 1 shot get back to me about "kite" .. rofl that's funny...

    so sad that rog are better than CONTROL wizard at cc AND do 10x dmg

    Kiting them is possible, however a good TR will kill you most likely anyways. This is coming from a 60 CW who gets stuck against teams in pvp with 3-4 TRs very often. Ways i found how to deal with them best is to play one myself to know the cool downs on their skills and so on more and watched 60 TRs pvp in vids.
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    Lift me up..
    Panda@kristingrave - CW - Dragon
    Death@healxyou - DC - Dragon
  • mistriosumistriosu Member Posts: 279 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    1. No CW or TR is allowed to complain about being "weak" EVER. Seriously. You have no ****ing right.
    2. If you're a CW and can't chain-CC you suck, plain and simple
    3. I hate CW and hope CC gets a nerf (in the form of Diminishing Returns) very soon
  • smokey158smokey158 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    CW and TR are both hand in hand for strongest class. GWF is the weak class
  • primerib41primerib41 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 48
    edited May 2013
    It may not feel that strong solo, but it's really good paired with anything else. e.g. in a 2v2 you can take out one opponent with cc while you both focus dps the other.
  • berbesberbes Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I got to lvl60 on my CW abt 3days ago, but i haven't pvped since. Pre 60's i never got 1-2shot by TRs, so if its happening at 60, then it could be a gear issue.
    walk2k wrote: »
    olollo kite.. range what range? when they turn invis and close in on you stunlock you and do 10k dmg in 1 shot get back to me about "kite" .. rofl that's funny...

    so sad that rog are better than CONTROL wizard at cc AND do 10x dmg
    You die to 10k dmg at 60? U should have more than 20k hp, am i right?

    On another issue, GWFs kill me in 3-4combo (good GWF); 3 knock-down an a finisher. Similar with GF too. i cant figure out how to counter them.
  • kinada350kinada350 Member Posts: 47
    edited May 2013
    elyrielle wrote: »
    CW can practically do the same thing with Ice Knife.

    The 40k ice knifes my friend throws around regularly say they certainly can.

    Every single post I've seen about people with pvp complaints are from people that are just utterly fail and have no clue how to use their own class much less how another class killed them.

    Any CW complaining about rogues is just a horrible player.
  • so314so314 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    helloccc wrote: »
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    Yes, it is.

    Isn't that my phone number? O.O
  • klipstaklipsta Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2013
    mistriosu wrote: »
    1. No CW or TR is allowed to complain about being "weak" EVER. Seriously. You have no ****ing right.
    2. If you're a CW and can't chain-CC you suck, plain and simple
    3. I hate CW and hope CC gets a nerf (in the form of Diminishing Returns) very soon

    You need to clam down and understand it's just a game pal
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