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GWF - Best Endgame Gear and Runestones/Enchantments...

kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
edited May 2013 in The Militia Barracks
A bit of theory crafting here my friends... Obviously the best weapon is the Ancient Castle Champion's Greatsword and Sword Knot. Along with the 4 piece set of the Castle Champion's Armor.

Aside from that what are your favorite (or desired!) end game Rings/Neck/Waste slot for a GWF?

Once that is settled, do you prefer (in the Sword and Swork Knot) 2 Vorpal Enhancements, 2 Greater Plague Fire, or one of each, or something different? Please state the why of your reasoning also!

What do you feel is the best Armor Enhancement, Greater Soul Forge or something else?

Do you believe all offensive slots on Runestone Placement should be Rank 9 Rune Stones or Greater Tenebrous Enchantments, if so why?

Just looking to see if we can come up with the best end game compilation of loot for a GWF. Specifically designed against PvE, but that can also rock PvP (or vice versa if you decide!)... Go! :)
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  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just a note, I am currently in the Instigator spec. Thus my opinion will reflect what I feel is best for that, but feel free to post your opinion on Destroyer (even Sentinel!) end build dreams! :)
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  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Sword knot doesn't have a weapon enhancement slot.

    Currently my GWF has 2900rec 3300crit 2200 Arp 5200 power unbuffed.

    Mainly using Rank 7 Radiants because my stats are supposedly hard capped. Greater plaguefire in MH. However if someone wanted to tank on a GWF, lifedrinker enchant gets crazy threat.
  • huskarrrhuskarrr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    asdfasdfgf wrote: »
    Sword knot doesn't have a weapon enhancement slot.

    Currently my GWF has 2900rec 3300crit 2200 Arp 5200 power unbuffed.

    Mainly using Rank 7 Radiants because my stats are supposedly hard capped. Greater plaguefire in MH. However if someone wanted to tank on a GWF, lifedrinker enchant gets crazy threat.

    how do i get those stats? I'm a fresh lvl 60 gwf with just pvp set :(
  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I have 4/4 Avatar of War and 4/4 Vigilant however neither set bonus is worthwhile so I use 2/4 from each set.
  • ioannides5ioannides5 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Don't tenebrous enchants give you WAY more damage than rank 7 radiants? They stack with each other... 1 greater tenebrous is like 600-700 damage one per rune, per proc. You have 6 offensive slots, that's 3600-4200 damage per proc idealy (they usually all proc together)
  • xeromus20xeromus20 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ioannides5 wrote: »
    Don't tenebrous enchants give you WAY more damage than rank 7 radiants? They stack with each other... 1 greater tenebrous is like 600-700 damage one per rune, per proc. You have 6 offensive slots, that's 3600-4200 damage per proc idealy (they usually all proc together)
    For the longest time I swore by tenebrous, I liked to be the first in and melt down the trash, which tenebrous greatly helps (since it's bursty). 7 seconds inbetween procs generally means youll get 1 rotation of them off per pack though, which has me rethinking using them.
    Paradigm - Instigator Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer - 13k GS
    Instigate and Eradicate
    Alek Silverkin - Sentinel Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer - 11k GS
    How do you kill that which gets tankier the more you hit it?
  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    From my CN parses, they only consist of 3% of my overall damage. I'd sooner flat static stats for my RS hits/crits on the Dracholich/Xivros/Beholdwr then have a proc every 6 seconds or so.

    Still on the fence as to whether tenebrous would be better for burst in pvp however.
  • huskarrrhuskarrr Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    where does the Greatsword of the berserk champion drop? I can't find anything about it
  • sacredchaossacredchaos Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    huskarrr wrote: »
    where does the Greatsword of the berserk champion drop? I can't find anything about it

    Dread vaults epic.
    GWF lvl 60.
    Completed all content waiting for more.
    And class balances.... trololollol.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I was also curious as to weather Tenebrous was 'overrated' per say. As I had read the thread that it only procs every 6-7 seconds. Though I be believe that would be better for PvP, however are flat stats to Arm Pen/Crit/Recovery/Power better at rank 7 or 8, then a Greater Tenebrous?

    Also, if anyone knows this, what are the Flat Stats (not including Runestone bonus if applied) to the Power/Crit/ArmPen/Recov stats for a lvl 60 gwf? If we had a baseline we could use it to theory craft different builds.

    Is the popular opinion to use 2x of the Tier 2 and then 2x for the Castle Champion set for their +X to Crit Strike (I believe it is CS) benefit, better then either of the set 4 bonus that are listed for either set?
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  • trickshawtrickshaw Member Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    huskarrr wrote: »
    where does the Greatsword of the berserk champion drop? I can't find anything about it

    Mine dropped off the AH... for 15k.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    trickshaw wrote: »
    Mine dropped off the AH... for 15k.

    ;O it is 400k + on my shard
  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I use 2/4 +450crit t2 and 2/4 +450rec t2 with 2/2 +450crit cn set bonuses.

    Would consider full AoW if it at least had a 50% up time.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So half Avatar of War and half Berserker Champion seems to be the general opinion thus far... Now, which helment/chest piece looks the best together? :)

    Also, any opinion on Armor Enchantment? Is Soulforged the best, etc?

    Sorry about the confusion on the Sword Knot, could have sworn it had a purple slot also, but oh well... Must be wishful thinking on my part! lol
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  • motomi96motomi96 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    So half Avatar of War and half Berserker Champion seems to be the general opinion thus far... Now, which helment/chest piece looks the best together?

    Wrong.

    2/4 Avatar of War 2/4 Vigilant
  • rayesmizarayesmiza Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ok since for some reason i cant make my own threads i would like to post this here I am currently using the instigator GWF build.
    From what I was told the stat priority for this build is power>crit>rec>armorpen. What i want to know is there a cap to these stats or do you want your armour pen to be at a certain point because right now its only like 3846 power, 2393 crit, 1671 rec, and only 282 armour pen which I feel like is to low and i should be going for it but i am unsure. I also want to know if the avatar of war 4 piece is any good to get or should i just get the 2, 2 pieces like someone earlier mentioned thanks in advance
  • churchilligcchurchilligc Member Posts: 175 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Should really be ArP -> Recovery (make sure to factor your ArP gains/plan out your gear) -> Power/Crit

    I'm at 3750 crit without having any enchantments stack it and I'm missing the +450 from the Ancient set from CN. That last stat is really just Power (which you also get a ton of).

    As far as Avatar of War, I have the full set but am switching off between T1 Berserker's and T2 Vigilant Warlord's +2 set bonuses. I agree with other sentiments that the 4p set bonus is too difficult to keep up (and hopefully this gets addressed because it's the ONLY T2 set that has these requirements)

    When I get the last few pieces I'm looking for, my stats will be: 4900 Power; 3900 Critical Strike, 2840 Recovery; 2205 ArP

    This is with R7 enchants, obviously would be higher with R8's or allow for more Recovery, Power, or Crit.

    A big thing you can do is pick up a lesser Plaguefire as it's cheap and does work for what it is. Work on building a Greater.
  • keobiaakeobiaa Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sacredchaos wrote: »
    Dread vaults epic.

    Berserk champion is off-set(t2 level stats, no set bonuses), the wep is a rare drop from the 2nd boss in Spider.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    keobiaa wrote: »
    Berserk champion is off-set(t2 level stats, no set bonuses), the wep is a rare drop from the 2nd boss in Spider.
    The Berserk Champions Greatsword does drop from the Temple of the Spider 2nd boss.
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  • linkensphere1linkensphere1 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hard to get the Avatar of War pieces, i tried spider temple, spell plague, karundax abr 5 times each and nothing drop, only got the boot from DD chest icespire heart. Any idea to get them easier? no AH plz, and where ancient castle sword drop? is it Castle Never?
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    linkensphere1 wrote: »
    hard to get the Avatar of War pieces, i tried spider temple, spell plague, karundax abr 5 times each and nothing drop, only got the boot from DD chest icespire heart. Any idea to get them easier? no AH plz, and where ancient castle sword drop? is it Castle Never?

    play when dd event is on how much i know sets drop only from chest and weapon is form castle never
  • chudovishyechudovishye Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Definitely agree with you on the Ancient Castle sword set. But for armor, I really like the Great Duelist because of the buffs you get through the full set. It's moderately priced for what you get out of it, and if you're a decent GWF by level 60 you should be able to purchase a full one with glory alone.
  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Erm... we don't need heals from our determination popping :/
  • trickshawtrickshaw Member Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    asdfasdfgf wrote: »
    Erm... we don't need heals from our determination popping :/

    Which doesn't pop lest you take damage. Not everyone rolls with a pocket DC.

    Just sayin'.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • asdfasdfgfasdfasdfgf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 237 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    trickshaw wrote: »
    Which doesn't pop lest you take damage. Not everyone rolls with a pocket DC.

    Just sayin'.
    I'll stick to my potions and absurd stats. Thanks.
  • belladanbelladan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    If the int cooldown mechanism's scaled correctly, Warlord set is by far the "best" in regards to using encounters, if you like to cycle them in approx. 1.8s rotations.

    Need's more testing, but the 17int build only dropped our 12.7s ability down to 11.9ish at lvl1, so speed rotations are still limited currently.

    Currently aiming for the helm. Most 21pt. builds will benefit most from AoW at the moment I think. (again, full set.)
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well I currently have the Berserker 2x and AoW 2x, eventually will try out the full AoW set, to see what is up.
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  • jrelthewise2jrelthewise2 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    asdfasdfgf wrote: »
    Erm... we don't need heals from our determination popping :/

    For what its worth the set bonus is great in pvp, especially combined with the Unstoppable Recovery. I wouldn't trade the healing in for any of the pve set bonuses. But I'm strictly referring to pvp.

    That being said it also isn't providing the 10% heal properly lol. I've observed that it ticks every second for 1% healing returned, but it only lasts as long as you are actually in Unstoppable. Using it at half bar provides 4-5 ticks, netting 4-5% healing returned, with a full bar lasting 7-8 seconds and that many ticks as well. Have yet to see it provide the FULL 10% over 10 seconds, yet I still love it. The healing is that good.

    Wouldn't mind if they actually fixed it though.
  • sacredchaossacredchaos Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    keobiaa wrote: »
    Berserk champion is off-set(t2 level stats, no set bonuses), the wep is a rare drop from the 2nd boss in Spider.

    Funny how i got it from dread vaults delves chest then >.>

    Guess its buggy and has multiple drop areas or perhaps dread vaults chest has every wep.
    GWF lvl 60.
    Completed all content waiting for more.
    And class balances.... trololollol.
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