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When the game goes "live"

omensofwaromensofwar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
There are a lot of different ppl that either want or dont want char wipes and blah blah. I think the solution is simple. Open a new server where zen from your other server does not transfer. Then those ppl that want a clean unexploited server can have it. Ppls account unlocks and founders packs still work but you cant transfer over 1,000,000 zen like many of the exploiters have managed to rack up.
a nice clean start for those that want it. and those that like being on a completely exploited server with a wrecked economy can have it.
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  • unclesaltyunclesalty Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    omensofwar wrote: »
    There are a lot of different ppl that either want or dont want char wipes and blah blah. I think the solution is simple. Open a new server where zen from your other server does not transfer. Then those ppl that want a clean unexploited server can have it. Ppls account unlocks and founders packs still work but you cant transfer over 1,000,000 zen like many of the exploiters have managed to rack up.
    a nice clean start for those that want it. and those that like being on a completely exploited server with a wrecked economy can have it.


    I actually like this idea myself. A clean server with no zen transfer.
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  • aeschillesaeschilles Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm in. Can you really call it 'beta' if there's no wipe?
    * Nothing is constant but change *
  • moisemanmoiseman Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    oh yeah let's open a server for the 100-150 guys that might want to do that.

    Obviously never going to happen.

    ps: the game is already live, it's not a beta. That word actually meant something back in the days before devs just wanted to hide behind it to make money of unpolished games.
  • reilz1981reilz1981 Member Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lol wont happen devs are happy with it as is
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  • feargxfeargx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 65
    edited May 2013
    I'd have to level my 60 rogue again, which I did level legit unlike exploiters.

    The problem is the lack of punishment or rollback of these cheats.
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  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited May 2013
    The problem is there are actually hundreds of servers already. They are simply arrayed in a Single Server Architecture which we call shards.
    (Fragments of a whole)

    In time there won't be multiple shards to play on. The multiple shards are a temporary feature to handle the launch load. They will be merged into one server system at some point in the future. It's an idea that might work in other MMO's which use multiple single servers but that's not how Cryptic designs their games. :)
  • kejser91kejser91 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2013
    '' just wanted to hide behind it to make money of unpolished games. ''



    yepp if Blizzard could do it with Diablo 3, so who can't xDD???
  • synikylsynikyl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd say wipe.. Exploiters are the worst
  • khatzhaskhatzhas Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    moiseman wrote: »
    oh yeah let's open a server for the 100-150 guys that might want to do that.

    Obviously never going to happen.
    A lot of the new people joining would probably rather start on a server where everyone has a fresh start rather than a bunch of high-levels already established from day one. The people wanting to keep their existing character and gains get to play amongst themselves, the people wanting a fresh start get to have it, and the new joiners get to pick which group they join.

    Only downside is, how many severs are they going to actually have? Weren't they going to merge everything?
    ps: the game is already live, it's not a beta. That word actually meant something back in the days before devs just wanted to hide behind it to make money of unpolished games.
    Its a beta according to the agreement I made to take part.
    I'm sure that if you would prefer to be playing live, you can define "beta" in such a way that by your personal definition, you are playing live.
  • moisemanmoiseman Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    khatzhas wrote: »
    Its a beta according to the agreement I made to take part.
    I'm sure that if you would prefer to be playing live, you can define "beta" in such a way that by your personal definition, you are playing live.

    Oh the irony.

    fully functional item shop
    everyone can play
    reviewed and advertised everywhere

    it's not a beta, it's a released game with some bugs. Beta used to actually mean something back in the days you know.
    You should check it instead of being so naive.
  • elyrielleelyrielle Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Since they intend to have all shards merged such that there is only one visible server you play on, this would be a temporary 'solution' at best. Still, I'm not opposed to the idea, as unlikely as it is to happen.
  • kimmurieloblodrakimmurieloblodra Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've been down this road before, it never ends well. I'm surprised Abmi didn't just close this thread...

    Anyways like he says, PWE are set in their ways. They will use their mega-server architecture whether we like it or not. And there can't be a wipe because then you'll get the founders/exploiters/people who invested tons of hours already that would brew up a sh;tstorm.

    I'm all for a new server as well, but it wont happen, unfortunately.
  • neeja737neeja737 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I got to hand it to them. Using beta as a shield is a good strategy: now whatever goes wrong can be blamed on beta status. When they feel ready then they "go live" and claim the most successfull launch etc.

    I personally dont want more then one server and the big old sophism about mmo economy is laughable imo.
  • lltsnwnlltsnwn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 787 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    omensofwar wrote: »
    There are a lot of different ppl that either want or dont want char wipes and blah blah. I think the solution is simple. Open a new server where zen from your other server does not transfer. Then those ppl that want a clean unexploited server can have it. Ppls account unlocks and founders packs still work but you cant transfer over 1,000,000 zen like many of the exploiters have managed to rack up.
    a nice clean start for those that want it. and those that like being on a completely exploited server with a wrecked economy can have it.

    Cryptic plans to merge all of the servers after Neverwinter launch so this solution would be a temporary one at best...
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  • lltsnwnlltsnwn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 787 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    neeja737 wrote: »
    I got to hand it to them. Using beta as a shield is a good strategy: now whatever goes wrong can be blamed on beta status. When they feel ready then they "go live" and claim the most successfull launch etc.

    I personally dont want more then one server and the big old sophism about mmo economy is laughable imo.

    First time beta testing a game? You may want to avoid it in the future and stick with released products.
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  • solyad1solyad1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 127 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    No wipe = no beta. They are not refunding Zen purchases and no more wipes so this is not a test regardless of what the marketing department tells you. That is all.

    p.s. The fact it PLAYS like a test, well that is an entirely different problem.
  • grizzdelgrizzdel Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 34
    edited May 2013
    This is not a beta, at least in the traditional sense.

    I have beta tested many software products from games to business titles. You generally have access to every aspect of the title, limited developer tools and a proper bug reporting tool. You also do not have to spend 1 cent to see everything the title has to offer.

    Tell me, how can PW/Cryptic honestly call us "beta testers" when half the content costs money to even see? (by content I mean everything, even dyes, items, etc.) How can we bug report these things? Are we supposed to pay them for the privilege of testing their game for them?
  • chintaechintae Member Posts: 110 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    If I could transfer my level 60 character with professions and gear and bank, just no Zen (which I don't have anyways), yeah, I'd go there, in a heartbeat
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