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GF: What Paragon Path and why?

sixko1sixko1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 30
edited April 2013 in PvE Discussion
So we are only hours away from being able to play the game (well, some of us) and I'm beginning to think about what paragon path to choose for my GF while leveling, I didnt get far enough during the beta weekends to try any of them.

I'm thinking that I should maybe go for a dps spec while leveling and then respec into a tank spec at max level to run dungeons but I'm not really sure.

Anyone has any tips? What paragon path will you guys choose and why?
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    i would go for dps one,since dps is king,im planing to play gwf but if they did not buff it will be dps gf :)
  • sixko1sixko1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 30
    edited April 2013
    warpet wrote: »
    i would go for dps one,since dps is king,im planing to play gwf but if they did not buff it will be dps gf :)

    Isnt there two dps paths for the GF? Which one of those two will you go for?
  • krubarkrubar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 841 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    The conqueror is a good dps path and the tactician is also a good dps path with shorter cooldowns. Protector is the tank path but it can still do good damage.
  • krubarkrubar Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 841 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2013
    I am considering mixing two or maybe all three paths in a build. Can get the +5 ac from protector, get the +damage using cleave from conqueror, get some feats from tactician like the reduction % on cooldowns for encounter powers.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    conqueror and tactician are good but if u wish more damage for yourself then conqueror if u wish to have nice damage and buff up team then
    tactician since u can buff up dps of team 5% , u can reduce damage of enemies
  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    Errm these are feat paths at Paragon levels not paragon paths. game Paragon Path is currently Swordmaster and that it.
  • sixko1sixko1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 30
    edited April 2013
    kotli wrote: »
    Errm these are feat paths at Paragon levels not paragon paths. In game Paragon Path is currently Swordmaster and that it.

    Really? I had no idea, thanks for clearing that up.
  • kotlikotli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 577
    edited April 2013
    Yep dunno why people call the feats choices Paragon paths when theres a big button with Paragon Path written on it that opens up a window with choices in it that you pick between that gives you bonus powers based on what you pick.

    Theres only one for each class to my knowledge ATM. There should end up being between 2 and 4 paths depending on how they split them up. Using the Player Hand Book examples:
    There are some that will most likely become there own class though like the Warpriest for Cleric since they end up using two handers (based on how Classes already work).
    Whereas for Fighters all 4 PHB1 Paragon paths go well with them.
  • decubisdecubis Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 90
    edited April 2013
    I am considering mixing two or maybe all three paths in a build. Can get the +5 ac from protector, get the +damage using cleave from conqueror, get some feats from tactician like the reduction % on cooldowns for encounter powers.

    Sounds like a very wise decision. I think i will try something like this aswell and respec full tank at lvlcap.
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  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Protector all the way, I'm a defense freak...
  • leissesleisses Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The problem with getting a mix build is that you don't have access to the last build talent like the Conqueror +100% Power according to Block Meter.

    I'm planning on take 21 to 26 points at Conqueror and the others at Tactician.
  • aorin84aorin84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kotli wrote: »
    Errm these are feat paths at Paragon levels not paragon paths. game Paragon Path is currently Swordmaster and that it.

    There have been two so far in various Beta Builds. Swordmaster and Iron Vanguard. Swordmaster was dps oriented (I found the paragon at-will ability to be extremely weak compared to cleave) and Iron Vanguard, the defense/threat (tank) side of GF paragon. It will be interesting to see what the third is. I imagine some sort of group buffing or self-healing style solo fighter...idk.

    I will probably choose Iron Vanguard as I want to be the most solid tank I can be.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    aorin84 wrote: »
    There have been two so far in various Beta Builds. Swordmaster and Iron Vanguard. Swordmaster was dps oriented (I found the paragon at-will ability to be extremely weak compared to cleave) and Iron Vanguard, the defense/threat (tank) side of GF paragon. It will be interesting to see what the third is. I imagine some sort of group buffing or self-healing style solo fighter...idk.

    I will probably choose Iron Vanguard as I want to be the most solid tank I can be.

    so there are other pargon paths in game? so it wasnt a bug when once when i went to choose paragon path i seen 1 more on list for few sec and skill listed from him i hope every class will have at least 2 paths to choose while ob and when game go live 3 at least
  • aorin84aorin84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    warpet wrote: »
    so there are other pargon paths in game? so it wasnt a bug when once when i went to choose paragon path i seen 1 more on list for few sec and skill listed from him i hope every class will have at least 2 paths to choose while ob and when game go live 3 at least

    I swear I read something somewhere that said each class should have at least 3. I can't seem to find it now, and I don't believe it was an official post to begin with. I know firsthand that there are two for Guardian Fighter as there were two in beta weekend 1, when I went swordmaster and regretted it, though cap was 30 at the time I only had the at-will ability to go on. It may have changed since then, I didn't play as aggressively in any of the other beta weekends as I didn't want to burn myself out pre-launch.

    Here is my post from that beta weekend and my review of "Weapon Master's Strike"

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?45861-Guardian-Fighter-Swordmaster-level-30-At-Will-Attack-is-Terrible-Not-tuned
  • pansapienpansapien Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I did not get to lvl 30 in BW4 but I could have sworn that my CW had three choices.
  • sideraxsiderax Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    According to the wiki, Swordmaster is the paragon path of the Great Weapon Fighter and Iron Vanguard that of Guardian Fighter.
    No choice here ^^ BUT you have three tree of feats for one paragon path.
    @Sideria

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  • aorin84aorin84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    siderax wrote: »
    According to the wiki, Swordmaster is the paragon path of the Great Weapon Fighter and Iron Vanguard that of Guardian Fighter.
    No choice here ^^ BUT you have three tree of feats for one paragon path.

    As of Beta Weekend 1, Swordmaster was Guardian Fighter. I know; I played it.
  • aorin84aorin84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    pansapien wrote: »
    I did not get to lvl 30 in BW4 but I could have sworn that my CW had three choices.

    Control Wizard has only had Spellstorm Mage as its paragon path. We're not talking about feat trees. That is something available to all classes regardless of paragon path.. Paragon paths are a completely different thing that unlock at level 30.
  • sideraxsiderax Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    aorin84 wrote: »
    As of Beta Weekend 1, Swordmaster was Guardian Fighter. I know; I played it.
    Yeah, maybe but that not the case anymore ^^
    @Sideria

    My french Spelljammer Campaign : Une epopee celeste
  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I doubt we'll see any more paragon paths as we know them from the DnD4 4th edition.
    Unless they completely overhaul the class system, they would have to add 3 additional "sub-paths" like the Protector/Conqueror/Tactictian for every class released.
    Consider also that in PnP, not all Paragon Paths are class-specific. Some are race specific, others are skill training-specific, and some are role specific (leader, defender, ecc...), and there are even some who are powersource-specific (martial, primal, divine, ecc...). And considering the mechanics of the videogame, and the fact that every class has different powers, it would be very hard to implement Paragon Paths as conceived in the PnP.
    The name "Paragon path" here just seems a way to add DnD flavor from level 30 on, which corresponds to the Pargon tier of level 30-60 (11-20 in PnP).
    So, if you're a Guardian Fighter, you will likely stay an Iron Vanguard as well for a long time, that's my hunch...
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