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gotcha1gotcha1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
edited March 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Hi i would like to you consider a new payment options options for Poland and other non euro currency countries.

E.G.

In Poland most of people earn about 2000 PLN = about 400 EURO while in other countries such as Germany,France 2000-3000 EURO. Founders pack cost 200 EURO this is a half Polish people earnings while for other EU countries its about 1/10 or less.

In addition, the average wage in Poland is 4000 PLN = 1000 EURO (At the same time, most people do not earn enough)

However, in Germany - 5000 EURO / France - 4800 EURO / Even Greeks earns about 2000 EURO.


It would like you to consider the payment for poorer countries with payment in PLN and other currecny. We would really like to donate this game but this is mostly impossible to us because of such high price, and imo you can earn much more money if you give these countries a better position to donate.
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  • digidagdigidag Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 60
    edited March 2013
    Actually, I paid EUR189 for the Founders pack, which is $246.42. It's converted pretty **** poor for any country, because we all get charged in some very skewed manner that Skrill decides to convert currencies by.

    Anyhow, I don't think that your average amount earned will ever really change the price of an ONLINE game platform. It's a little bit of a pity for some countries. But alas.

    Also, for the record.. The Hero of the North founder pack would be aprox. 640.08 zloty for you.
  • gotcha1gotcha1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    For today its 800 PLN (799,85) not 640,08
  • sourwolfiesourwolfie Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gotcha1 wrote: »
    However, in Germany - 5000 EURO

    Are you freaking kidding me? I'm german, and can only dream of such wages, as can everyone else I know. I am unsure where you're pulling these numbers from but unless you're in the medical field or a manager you certainly do not earn such a wage over here.
    If you've pulled those figures from the average numbers than that's a logical fault. On one side you have people living off social services of about €500 and on the other end of the spectrum you have managers earning €20.000 and more per month. The latter will screw up the average number.

    €5000 average wage over here, LOL! I WISH!!!!
  • kostas84kostas84 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gotcha1 wrote: »
    Hi i would like to you consider a new payment options options for Poland and other non euro currency countries.

    E.G.

    In Poland most of people earn about 2000 PLN = about 400 EURO while in other countries such as Germany,France 2000-3000 EURO. Founders pack cost 200 EURO this is a half Polish people earnings while for other EU countries its about 1/10 or less.

    In addition, the average wage in Poland is 4000 PLN = 1000 EURO (At the same time, most people do not earn enough)

    However, in Germany - 5000 EURO / France - 4800 EURO / Even Greeks earns about 2000 EURO.


    It would like you to consider the payment for poorer countries with payment in PLN and other currecny. We would really like to donate this game but this is mostly impossible to us because of such high price, and imo you can earn much more money if you give these countries a better position to donate.

    No we dont earn 2000 euro here in Greece.

    My family barely earns 200 a month and with that we must live for the next 1-2 months including paying bills.

    Please dont spread false information.
  • zaphtasticzaphtastic Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    I live in Hungary, which is slightly worse off than Poland (average wage around 700 euro, iirc). I'm working at a high-end job as a project manager + R&D engineer, have several international certifications and a MSC in CompSci. I make a -lot- of money by Hungarian standards (way above the national average), but people doing the same work with the same qualifications in the US still make at least 5-6 times as much as I do (I may emigrate at one point, especially if our beloved politicians keep HAMSTER Hungary even worse, but I digress).

    Thing is, though... this is how capitalism works, love it or leave it. I don't think it's the job of game companies to try and fix this.
  • gotcha1gotcha1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Guys please learn to read, I said average ofc most people do not earn enough and do not even dream of but these are the statistics and all of them are gross. But for now I'm earning 1800 PLN gross = about 440 EURO gross and after paying taxes, bills It left me about 500-600 PLN (120-150 EURO)

    I would like that administration spoke to whether or not they want to take into account the option.
  • sourwolfiesourwolfie Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    gotcha1 wrote: »
    Guys please learn to read, I said average ofc most people do not earn enough and do not even dream of but these are the statistics and all of them are gross. But for now I'm earning 1800 PLN gross = about 440 EURO gross and after paying taxes, bills It left me about 500-600 PLN (120-150 EURO)

    I would like that administration spoke to whether or not they want to take into account the option.

    Then please learn that average numbers never reflect what's actually happening. To explain it to you:

    Well, we all learned in school how to calculate an average: You take all the values you're averaging, add them up, and divide them by the number of values. This is fine if what you're trying to average is pretty uniform -- the average of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 is 3, right there in the middle. The problem is that averages are absolutely useless if a minority of numbers are unusually high -- the average of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 40 is 10, which doesn't help anybody know jack**** about anything.
    And that's the problem with the "average income" statistic -- a few rich people are skewing the **** out of the number. If you're earning less than the average income, it's not because your job is HAMSTER you, it's because you live in the same country as Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and whatever their equivalent is in other countries.

    That's why most reputable sources who try to figure out wealth distribution use the median income, not the average.

    In short your arguments to make the prices lower are faulty, and as such have a chance of zero to have any impact on prices.
  • infi321infi321 Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    Did someone seriously just make a post about begging?

    Look if you dont have money to play a game (and yes the preorder price at 200€ is a scam still) you should not be here at all.

    Go play facebook games or indie games.
    "Your story may not last forever; but it will exist forever"
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