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siolenas
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Is it me or does this game feel like a cheap action game put into a DnD skin
For Example.
Stats: Since when does stats do not matter?
Con & Life - A rogue with 1k starting life very well kills the immersion faction
Other stats - Whats the points, +stat weapons and armor makes your initial rolls seems pointless
The lore, terrain and store is right on, but the mechanics behind the game seems dated, and just tossed in there.
For Example.
Stats: Since when does stats do not matter?
Con & Life - A rogue with 1k starting life very well kills the immersion faction
Other stats - Whats the points, +stat weapons and armor makes your initial rolls seems pointless
The lore, terrain and store is right on, but the mechanics behind the game seems dated, and just tossed in there.
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Check out Exemplifying D&D in Neverwinter. See if you agree with what is stated there and maybe some changes could come about. I don't think having 1K starting health on a rogue is bad considering the other classes have more, those changes are more for balancing purposes, but certainly some other features have to be tweaked a bit.
If you work with smaller numbers its really harder to balance things and make compromises.
I agree, this is a quality game... if nothing else existed.
Ask yourself this. Where did the inspiration for the PnP games come from? You think when they sat down and wrote the first basic rules before the game really took off, they were imagining this static, turn based fantasy world? I doubt it. While I cannot speak for Gary and Dave, I bet they were imagining fantastical, action battles that combined swordplay, magic, trickery, and anything else an adventurer might use in a fluid, exciting combat. However, this obviously is hard to do on Paper, so they did their best to interpret everything to work well on paper. This involved lots of stats, rules and dice, and the very nature of this style slows it down to a turn based setting.
However, I feel that Neverwinter is just taking all the great lore, stories and game play mechanics and treating them as if it really WAS happening in real time.
With that being said, in order to balance things, as well as make it more fast paced and exciting you have to increase the health pools, otherwise you would have either extremely short fights, or you would have exaggerated fights where you spend most of your time missing in combat.
Think about it, yes you have less health in the PnP version, but the act of taking even one action in combat is about as long as you can kill several guys in Neverwinter.
While I agree there are some issues, namely the depth of the classes themselves, as well as the number of classes available, and I think stats needs to play a bigger role, I think calling it a cheap action game in a DnD skin is not being fair. Rather it is just reversing the DnD experience back to the world that the PnP game drew from. And that world is all there. With the Foundry, the emphasize will be on building stories, something that ultimately drew most people to love the PnP game so much.
As someone else mentioned, it is like playing through one of the FR novels. They have always focused on the fast paced side of things, taking the elements of PnP and translating it to what it might have really been like if you were an actual adventurer in one of the DM's stories.
If the rogue does 10,000 damage with level 12, then the wizard needs 1000 hitpoints to start with
Short Version: It is a cheap action RPG with a D&D skin.
Even being a FR fan, and almost addict =D This one is gonna get a major pass by me.
CU at launch too.
In my opinion a well balanced and well defined game means the difference between 18 con and 20 - a 10% difference - is noticeable and meaningful, and nobody should ever hit diminishing returns because numbers shouldn't get that absurd.
Pay less attention to the mechanics of the game and more to the possibility of the Foundry system. Players will create all kinds of content and many will include adventures that will go for the type of game you'll like. If you're looking for D20 mechanics of old, this is based on 4e - so you won't get the old school THAC0 feel.