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bighalsybighalsy Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 261 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2012 in General Discussion (PC)
Meh.

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  • vindevereauxxvindevereauxx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    If you log out of the website, then go to the main page, click on Sign up for Beta. Then click on the Already have an account? link, select "Cryptic" and enter your info. This should then prompt you to link the account to a pwe account- if you don't have one yet it'll make you create a new one, and it should auto-populate with your cryptic info.

    As for the bears, people aren't too fond of them but they might be removed/changed. who knows. Maybe instead of just qq'ing about them people can give valid replacement suggestions. *shrug*
  • ysil6969ysil6969 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Or you know, just not use smileys in your posts...
  • torskaldrtorskaldr Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    They're bugbears... b:chuckle
  • aandrethegiantaandrethegiant Member Posts: 3,369 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    bighalsy wrote: »
    So, all the people who were here and showing dedication to D&D and the game in hopes of getting in to the closed beta in hopes of making real contributions are now screwed and pretty much have to buy their way in, is that it?

    Absolutely. Well, for now its the plan. Thats why I rose hell when they announced the buy-in, and it was without question a buy in for the beta. They promised many ways to get beta keys, and I believe they will back up their words with action, at some point. The mere fact that they offered the buy-in without any other opportunities to get a key, really put a bad taste in my mouth. All this time passes and still no other way to get guaranteed access to the beta besides a promise that they'll be many ways to get a key OR Buy in!

    It was and is a joke.

    I think they need to get serious about this website and this closed beta, because having a bunch of Torchlight gamers messin around in a supposed closed beta for Neverwinter is redonkulous.

    Theres been PR disaster after disaster with this game... some of which you gloss upon. All of this could be different if there was more transparency with PWE and its playerbase. I don't think they have a clue how to market to Americans, and this site is my exhibit A.

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  • devoteoftempusdevoteoftempus Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 473 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2012
    People need to get their panties out of a bundle and chill. They said summer expect some info which has yet to arrive and people need quite griping over the site. Sure it has it's defects but ******** isn't the way to go about it. Make suggestions about it, don't go b:cry

    People are nite picking and blowing things out of proportion. While I don't agree with the Beta buy in this is nothing new with Cryptic nor is it not like others haven't done this too. Having closed Beta access doesn't equate to have constructive feed to the Devs as part of their team... you find bugs and discrepancies not give input on what your vision of NWO is.
  • seikilosseikilos Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Actually, as I've said before, PWE gives a lot of free alpha/beta keys away for every single one of their games. Proof? Their most recent alpha test was RaiderZ:
    http://www.gamesradar.com/raiderz-alpha-key-giveaway/
    http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/321/RaiderZ-Alpha-Key-Giveaway-Event.html
    http://www.alienwarearena.com/giveaway/raiderz-alpha-key-giveaway/
    http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/13/take-on-colossal-monsters-with-our-raiderz-alpha-key-giveaway/
    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/12/join-the-raiderz-alpha-test-with-a-key-from-massively/
    http://login.ign.com/prime/promos/raiderz/
    http://www.curse.com/betas/raiderz
    Each of those site had about 5,000 ALPHA keys along with some more sites. In addition to that, they also had a bunch of events on their Facebook page, forums, and twitch.tv. Most people got their keys 2-3 weeks before the alpha test, but everyone that knew got more than enough keys.

    As for the bears and them being too cute (or childish) to attract American players, League of Legends have more cuter contents in game (Annie, Teemo, Amumu) and it has millions of American players. If you mean D&D fans, then I guess that's a different story, but you can't expect this game to only be played by D&D fans. And those saying they don't want kids inhabiting this game, how old were you when you first became a fan of D&D? I bet you weren't so old either.
  • elrohianelrohian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Absolutely. Well, for now its the plan. Thats why I rose hell when they announced the buy-in, and it was without question a buy in for the beta. They promised many ways to get beta keys, and I believe they will back up their words with action, at some point. The mere fact that they offered the buy-in without any other opportunities to get a key, really put a bad taste in my mouth. All this time passes and still no other way to get guaranteed access to the beta besides a promise that they'll be many ways to get a key OR Buy in!

    It was and is a joke.

    I think they need to get serious about this website and this closed beta, because having a bunch of Torchlight gamers messin around in a supposed closed beta for Neverwinter is redonkulous.

    Theres been PR disaster after disaster with this game... some of which you gloss upon. All of this could be different if there was more transparency with PWE and its playerbase. I don't think they have a clue how to market to Americans, and this site is my exhibit A.

    What exactly do you expect them to do?

    They will start giving out keys when they announce the beta dates. There's no reason to start giving out keys at this moment, when we are still far from the start. They only gave keys at PAX and the Torchlight preorder because there was simply no other timeframe to give these things, and the Torchlight players have not even recieved their keys yet...

    Also, they are serious. They have been serious years now, this is their marketing practice and it has served them well so far. After all these years they know how to run a bussiness in the west much better than you or any other player does.
    There will be enough time for PR while the CB is running. There is no reason to promote somethning that isn't yet there, when they will have many months of beta and all that comes with it... Whining just because they do things as they usually do and not as you're used to is childish... Whining because they DARE let those some "filthy" Torchlight players in your "sacred" D&D game is even more childish...

    And it is the Western market, not the American market. Your country is not the centre of the universe...
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    bighalsy wrote: »
    First off, anytime I goto the front page with IE8 it just locks up the browser entirely and I have to close it out with the task manager.

    Second: I was registered on day one and contributed a lot untill PWs acquisition and the delay. Now I have to re-register with an all new account. I couldn't even get my old username back!!! Was there something wrong with my Cryptic account? It's still fine for CO and STO. So, all the people who were here and showing dedication to D&D and the game in hopes of getting in to the closed beta in hopes of making real contributions are now screwed and pretty much have to buy their way in, is that it? Wow, if this the way PW wants to run things then this game has already failed before it even begins. I see there already hard at work pimping their virtual currency. Really classy, guys.

    Third this forum looked great, now it looks butt ugly and wtf is with the stupid bear smilies? Maybe that stuff goes over big in Asia, but not over here.

    Sigh, I knew this acquisition did not bode well. We went from a real spiritual successor to NWN to some action-oriented grind-fest that has nothing do with actual D&D and players will be nickel-and-dimed to death for every single thing. Wow, nice one Cryptic. Thanks for nothing! Thanks for wasting out time.

    Well, see you around folks. Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will kickstart a real NWN reboot.
    IE 8? Well, at least you are not using IE 6!!! b:laugh But yeah, if there is an issue, report so it can be fixed.

    So you just contributed till PWE took over Atari and yet expect VIP treatment like if you had never left? Okaaay.

    Problems with account? Sure, like everybody else and their mother. If you had taken just a bit to check the forums...

    Dedication comes in the good and the bad times. If you left, I see no dedication to this game. (some people here get very angry that "noobs" come here and receive same treatment as them, old ones) You don't need closed beta to make contributions to the game and even if you are in, it doesn't mean that you will actually make any significant impact. Also, you have chosen to ignore that the main target of the Torchilight II bonus beta is targeting mainly Runic followers, not you. Of course that PWE knows that some "people" with no interest in Torchilight II will pay for a Neverwinter betakey (of a game that they may not even play on release). But hey, companies count with that kind of stuff. Consider also that those preorders are not guaranteed early access to beta and that no other means to get beta keys has been announced yet so you are overreacting. They will pick people from the forum, create contests, offer random keys through websites... Will you bash all of them if you are not one of the chosen ones?

    Bear smileys? Bear in mind that you are a lazy dood that hasn't checked the forums. That topic it's like beating a dead bear with its own thread and all. b:shutup

    Spiritual successor when? Neverwinter has been bashed from the beginning because it's not NwN 3 and that co-op RPG with no custom assests was not "Neverwinter". :p

    Since when was Neverwinter a NwN reboot? Answer: never!
    b:bye


    Cryptic is going to need lots of pacifiers and napkins in the closed beta forums. imho b:chuckle
  • vindevereauxxvindevereauxx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    torskaldr wrote: »
    They're bugbears... b:chuckle

    I lost it at this- lol!

    shiaika wrote: »
    Dedication comes in the good and the bad times. If you left, I see no dedication to this game. (some people here get very angry that "noobs" come here and receive same treatment as them, old ones) You don't need closed beta to make contributions to the game and even if you are in, it doesn't mean that you will actually make any significant impact. Also, you have chosen to ignore that the main target of the Torchilight II bonus beta is targeting mainly Runic followers, not you. Of course that PWE knows that some "people" with no interest in Torchilight II will pay for a Neverwinter betakey (of a game that they may not even play on release). But hey, companies count with that kind of stuff. Consider also that those preorders are not guaranteed early access to beta and that no other means to get beta keys has been announced yet so you are overreacting. They will pick people from the forum, create contests, offer random keys through websites... Will you bash all of them if you are not one of the chosen ones?

    ...


    Cryptic is going to need lots of pacifiers and napkins in the closed beta forums. imho b:chuckle

    Too true. Bolded the parts that are especially relevant- Like Stormshade said, if the main issue with the site is just visual, I'd count that a win. There are a lot of things that could have gone much much worse- having once been a (paid) forum moderator, I could tell you horror stories about the madness that COULD occur. Every major change has a few hiccups. You just gotta roll with it.

    Let's not keep beating a dead horse here and ctfd until there's something legitimate to complain about (like, say, if our information was sold *cough*Atari*cough* or stolen). The visuals of a website do not make the community, the players do. Let's all remember that we're adults and leave the qq to the babies.
  • valkhadvalkhad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    TL;DR

    The acquisition wasn't negotiable -- Cryptic couldn't merge their user data with PWE's because (lo and behold) there were duplicate names. Since the acquisition was of Cryptic by PWE, and not the other way around, our user data went poof. You're not getting any of it back.

    Our forum needs some work; No one need state the obvious. The forums will get their own background and less abrasive smilies in time. As for site loyalty, you're one of the first ones back -- your post count will come back up. People that can't wrap their head around this acquisition simply won't come back.
    Every major change has a few hiccups. You just gotta roll with it.

    Let's not keep beating a dead horse here and ctfd until there's something legitimate to complain about (like, say, if our information was sold *cough*Atari*cough* or stolen). The visuals of a website do not make the community, the players do. Let's all remember that we're adults and leave the qq to the babies.
    ^ Also, this.
  • qumi0qumi0 Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    That's not entirely true. Look at Torchlight 2 - they are also part of PWE, but have separate forum and stuff.
  • valkhadvalkhad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    qumi0 wrote: »
    That's not entirely true. Look at Torchlight 2 - they are also part of PWE, but have separate forum and stuff.

    Torchlight II was developed and is owned by Runic Games, not PWE. Why they are listed on the PWE dropbar, I'm not sure -- but if you actually go to that page and try to access the forums you will be redirected to the Runic forums.
  • torskaldrtorskaldr Member Posts: 559 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    qumi0 wrote: »
    That's not entirely true. Look at Torchlight 2 - they are also part of PWE, but have separate forum and stuff.

    Unless something has changed and I missed it, Torchlight and TL2 are owned and developed by Runic and published by PWE.

    Runic is a small company and PWE is big and has a larger exposure. It's a good deal for both in my opinion. Thankfully Runic didn't go with someone like EA or Frogster.
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