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Random Queues and Raw Astral Diamonds

nerone#4773 nerone
nerone#4773
 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15 Arc User
in Bug Reports (PC)
Hello!
I don't know if this is the right section, as I haven't found it written anywhere I think it's a bug.

For a few days, doing random queues, we realized that after completing 3/4 of them, the fourth queue gives us much less than astral diamonds.
For example: if I do RADQ, RDQ and Skirmish and last I do RTQ, it only gives 5750 rough astral diamonds instead of 28750.
This thing only happens from the last module. Is it something you wanted to do or is it a bug?

@nitocris83 could you give me some information about it, please?

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  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    There is a limit to how much rad you can earn from the Random queue bonus each day it reduces as you run them to reflect that cap
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,423 Arc User
    The daily cap used to be 80K as of last year. I don't know what the current cap is. It appears it is more now.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    It's around 150 I think give or take, but you can still get rad from chests which doesn't effect the cap
  • nerone#4773 nerone
    nerone#4773
         Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15 Arc User
    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,423 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    In game, no where. At least, I can't find it. It was mentioned in patch note.

    e.g. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news/detail/11495313-patch-notes:-version:-nw.131.20210803b.2

    This is just an example. The information seems to be old.


    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    It tells you after you reach the limit red text will appear on screen at the end of any dungeons where you have reached your limit, there has always been a limit you just never realised because it used to take more runs to hit the limit now it doesn't take as many due to the decent payout from standard dungeons
  • falco7882falco7882 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    Hello everybody,
    The support guarantees and reassures me the daily limit is 100,000 RAD, I'm sure some time ago doing the 4 queues I was able to stock up for the days when you are in a rush and can't random queues.
    No limit is written in the game for the RAD earned, the only limit is for the RAD to be refined daily.
    https://prnt.sc/3mfFvqBnhA08
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    Support have given you wrong information, every day refine my 100k and earn around 150 from queue bonus after which I will receive a message in big red writing on the screen after completing a dungeon that I have reached the max amount of RAD that can be earned through dungeon
  • falco7882falco7882 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    masteryoda#6623 said:

    Support have given you wrong information, every day refine my 100k and earn around 150 from queue bonus after which I will receive a message in big red writing on the screen after completing a dungeon that I have reached the max amount of RAD that can be earned through dungeon

    ok, but some time after the second random queue, for example: RTQ and RADQ the RDQ gain decreases from 34.500RAD to 23.000RAD, this I don't think is correct.
    if I also do RDQ, RSQ (skirmish) decreases from 13.800RAD to 2.800RAD, I only have this BUG?
  • nerone#4773 nerone
    nerone#4773
         Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15 Arc User
    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    In game, no where. At least, I can't find it. It was mentioned in patch note.

    e.g. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news/detail/11495313-patch-notes:-version:-nw.131.20210803b.2

    This is just an example. The information seems to be old.


    80k is for non-vip. For those who have the vip, there is nothing written... Is there a limit for who is vip that is not written?
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,423 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    nerone#4773 said:

    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    In game, no where. At least, I can't find it. It was mentioned in patch note.

    e.g. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news/detail/11495313-patch-notes:-version:-nw.131.20210803b.2

    This is just an example. The information seems to be old.


    80k is for non-vip. For those who have the vip, there is nothing written... Is there a limit for who is vip that is not written?
    As I said, "80K cap for non-VIP" information may be "old". I just wanted to point out there is a cap. I don't know what the current cap is regardless if it is VIP or non VIP.

    If I have to guess, I would think full VIP has 15% more.


    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    falco7882 said:

    masteryoda#6623 said:

    Support have given you wrong information, every day refine my 100k and earn around 150 from queue bonus after which I will receive a message in big red writing on the screen after completing a dungeon that I have reached the max amount of RAD that can be earned through dungeon

    ok, but some time after the second random queue, for example: RTQ and RADQ the RDQ gain decreases from 34.500RAD to 23.000RAD, this I don't think is correct.
    if I also do RDQ, RSQ (skirmish) decreases from 13.800RAD to 2.800RAD, I only have this BUG?
    Tomorrow when everything resets for me il do some maths and work out if that's a bug or just due to you getting closer to the Queue bonus cap
  • nerone#4773 nerone
    nerone#4773
         Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15 Arc User
    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    In game, no where. At least, I can't find it. It was mentioned in patch note.

    e.g. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news/detail/11495313-patch-notes:-version:-nw.131.20210803b.2

    This is just an example. The information seems to be old.


    80k is for non-vip. For those who have the vip, there is nothing written... Is there a limit for who is vip that is not written?
    As I said, "80K cap for non-VIP" information may be "old". I just wanted to point out there is a cap. I don't know what the current cap is regardless if it is VIP or non VIP.

    If I have to guess, I would think full VIP has 15% more.


    Shouldn't 15% be on the astreal diamonds you get and not on the cap? Example if a non-VIP gets 10,000, a VIP should get 11,500.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,423 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    nerone#4773 said:

    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    plasticbat said:

    nerone#4773 said:

    But before the quantity of diamonds didn't decrease. Especially, where they say that there is a limit of rough astral diamonds that can be obtained through queues?

    In game, no where. At least, I can't find it. It was mentioned in patch note.

    e.g. https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/xbox/neverwinter/news/detail/11495313-patch-notes:-version:-nw.131.20210803b.2

    This is just an example. The information seems to be old.


    80k is for non-vip. For those who have the vip, there is nothing written... Is there a limit for who is vip that is not written?
    As I said, "80K cap for non-VIP" information may be "old". I just wanted to point out there is a cap. I don't know what the current cap is regardless if it is VIP or non VIP.

    If I have to guess, I would think full VIP has 15% more.


    Shouldn't 15% be on the astreal diamonds you get and not on the cap? Example if a non-VIP gets 10,000, a VIP should get 11,500.
    Yes but if the bonus AD cap is not adjusted accordingly, the VIP extra becomes pointless. i.e. non-VIP caps at N AD. With VIP, it also cap at N AD when both group of player needs to play the same number of RQ to hit cap.

    Of course, I just guess (as I already said) and I don't really know.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    falco7882 said:

    masteryoda#6623 said:

    Support have given you wrong information, every day refine my 100k and earn around 150 from queue bonus after which I will receive a message in big red writing on the screen after completing a dungeon that I have reached the max amount of RAD that can be earned through dungeon

    ok, but some time after the second random queue, for example: RTQ and RADQ the RDQ gain decreases from 34.500RAD to 23.000RAD, this I don't think is correct.
    if I also do RDQ, RSQ (skirmish) decreases from 13.800RAD to 2.800RAD, I only have this BUG?
    Right so Trial queue = 25000+5000 role bonus
    Advanced Dungeon queue = 40000+8000 role bonus
    Skirmish queue = 12000
    Random Dungeon queue = 30000+6000 role bonus
    All together is a potential earn of 126000 + adding rough Astral Diamonds boost from invocation to each of these easily brings you over 150000, potentially around 170000 however yes as you get closer to that 150000 the numbers in the queue list change to reflect how close you are to that cap so yes you can refine 100,000 RAD per day while earning 150000 RAD just from queue bonus not includedRAD you may get in the chest. This reflects what I'm used to see so yeah it's not a bug it's just change to reflects how close you are to the cap, again once you reach the cap you should start see big red letters appear on screen as soon as final boss dies saying you have reach the maximum amount of RAD you can earn per day.
  • falco7882falco7882 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    - I did not find written the limit of 150,000 RAD in game.
    - I don't understand how the game can fail if I earn + RAD, considering I can only refine 100,000 RAD daily.
    - I don't understand why not to set fixed quotas for random queues.
    @nitocris83 help me!
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,423 Arc User
    edited August 2022
    falco7882 said:

    - I did not find written the limit of 150,000 RAD in game.
    - I don't understand how the game can fail if I earn + RAD, considering I can only refine 100,000 RAD daily.
    - I don't understand why not to set fixed quotas for random queues.
    @nitocris83 help me!

    As far as I know, there is no limit for how much rAD you can earn per day. There are other source to earn rAD. I don't do RQ since its introduction (personal prejudice against it). I can earn more than 150K rAD in one day.
    There is a limit of refinement per day, 100K.
    There is a limit to get RQ bonus rAD. I am not sure if it is 150K though. I don't think role bonus rAD count against to the RQ limit. I also don't think invocation 50% bonus counts against RQ limit. If it does, it does not make sense to me. Since I don't do RQ, I don't really know.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • masteryoda#6623 masteryoda
    masteryoda#6623
         Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    plasticbat said:

    falco7882 said:

    - I did not find written the limit of 150,000 RAD in game.
    - I don't understand how the game can fail if I earn + RAD, considering I can only refine 100,000 RAD daily.
    - I don't understand why not to set fixed quotas for random queues.
    @nitocris83 help me!

    As far as I know, there is no limit for how much rAD you can earn per day. There are other source to earn rAD. I don't do RQ since its introduction (personal prejudice against it). I can earn more than 150K rAD in one day.
    There is a limit of refinement per day, 100K.
    There is a limit to get RQ bonus rAD. I am not sure if it is 150K though. I don't think role bonus rAD count against to the RQ limit. I also don't think invocation 50% bonus counts against RQ limit. If it does, it does not make sense to me. Since I don't do RQ, I don't really know.
    Role bonus and invocation % boost does count towards the limit of RAD that you get for completing a Random queue. I run all Random queues every day plus more, so I'm 99.9% certain about this. It would be good if there actually put this info in game other than just red text after reaching limit
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