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Making this event solely reliant on the one egg each player gets and trading said eggs to complete makes the event completely undoable. Seriously should have made the eggs obtainable through other sources. Everyone is going to be selling them and probably no one will complete it.
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  • empalasempalas Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 802 Arc User
    And taking up 15 bag slots...if this is how its intended to work then it has to be one of the worst ideas ever
  • kyjle6akakyjle6aka Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    Only 1 egg for all the time? Maybe you will make it possible to get 1 random egg every day? Then at least there will be something to exchange.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User

    Great event for people with multiple accounts.
    And supposedly this is forbidden...
    Hypocrisis level hard, lol.

    Where does it say having multiple accounts is forbidden?
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  • muschellka#7783 muschellka Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Great event for people with multiple accounts.
    And supposedly this is forbidden...
    Hypocrisis level hard, lol.

    Where does it say having multiple accounts is forbidden?
    Nowhere. But I got a perma-ban because my brother logged from my computer. That's justice.
    I have to start over after 8 years of playing.
  • arazith07arazith07 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,719 Arc User
    If you only have a few different eggs (or just one) you will still get something according to the Reddit AMA and an additional reward for having the full set.
  • mordekai#7296 mordekai Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    I suppose the idea is to get the uber rich to buy stuff from lower end players.
    Those poorer players are more likely to spend the money than those with hundreds of millions of AD, thereby slowly sucking it out of the game.
    If so it's unlikely to have the impact they want.
    It's more likely to cause bad feeling because offering a "collectable" but you can only get one, then that creates a funnel of content where most players are essentially out of the game in round one.

    I'm HOPING these eggs will be available elsewhere, allowing people to actually enjoy the GAME process of attempting to complete a collection outside of being really rich.
    Give us a pair of Magic Spectacles that work like "Pokemon Go"and we have to go find the things... SOMETHING better than "Errr... well... you need to be very rich and buy them..."
    Having a player based CCG type system is a good idea, but as usual its actual implementation and game play impact looks like it has been of little importance

    With this and the Preview now giving a "Refine One, Get Ninety Nine FREE" option to new MYTHIC Enchants, anyone who dares say that the game is only aimed at new players needs to have a word with themselves.

    Imagine if you manage to buy 12 or 13, but fall short of the full set, with it looking like an "All or Nothing" who is going to want to risk that?

    The most likely scenario is that those really rich characters will focus on one type of egg and buy up as many of those as they can, keeping their availability low.
    This will drive their price through the roof... which will either force people to spend far more, (making that already super rich hoarder even richer) or make the ultimate reward be incredibly Rare with only a few people getting hold of them.
  • arazith07arazith07 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,719 Arc User
    Players are the ones setting the price tags high, not the game. You need only look at the above posts to see players actively getting others to only sell for really high prices. We don't even know what it will give, for all we know, it could just be a simple overload enchantment (I hope not, but using it as an example of something cheap). It could be a mount, in which case people will be able to upgrade them and those who have the collection of eggs might get a different skin...which really wouldn't be that much different than the other rarer mounts or companions that already exist and are no longer attainable.
  • darthpotaterdarthpotater Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    I also didnt like the event. One thing is the short availability, and the prize you have to pay for the 15.

    But the thing that rewards are unknown is something that scares most of the people. No matter if the 15 eggs cost 15 millions or 20, the question is that we dont know if the rewards are worth it.

    This eggs should drop in dungeons
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  • yamioni#9870 yamioni Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    arazith07 said:

    Players are the ones setting the price tags high, not the game.

    Wrong. That's not how economies work.

    The initial supply is already artificially limited. Cryptic forced the default price high. Players can (and likely will) push the prices even higher through hoarding and additional artificial scarcity, but make no mistake about Cryptic's role in the situation.
  • irene#2829 irene Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    What will the egg give? :p
  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,492 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    I love this event.

    It is kind of a Robin Hood event, transferring AD from the not-so-poor to the poor, which is a good thing.

    And there is a lot of suspense and wild guessing.
    What do we get when we open the eggs?
    Is it worth it spending millions of AD to get a mythic egg?
    Is it worth it paying 100k's for a single egg?

    Nice, thought-provoking, risk-taking and wealth redistributing event shaking people out of their daily complacent routine.
    Pure genius :)

    Since most people won't get a mythic egg I think it is obvious that the reward from it will not be anything that will not be obtainable by other means. My guess is that the eggs will drop the new enchantments.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User

    What will the egg give? :p

    Jim his breakfast.
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  • rockster#6227 rockster Member Posts: 1,860 Arc User
    I'm just keeping mine to see what happens to it. I think it's kind of hilarious that so many players are paying millions in AD for something they don't even know what it is.
    Apparently pointing-out the bleeding obvious is a 'personal attack'.
  • silente07#2597 silente07 Member Posts: 395 Arc User
    This event does not give to the poor. It takes advantage of them. Eggs are starting at 500k and going up to millions.

    The haves will have them, the have nots will watch.
  • modlesiemodlesie Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    Event for Rich players?
  • fritz#8093 fritz Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    modlesie said:

    Event for Rich players?

    Imagine the tears once we all find out we're getting Vanity Pets for 10M+.
  • fritz#8093 fritz Member Posts: 439 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Great event for people with multiple accounts.
    And supposedly this is forbidden...
    Hypocrisis level hard, lol.

    Where does it say having multiple accounts is forbidden?
    It's low-key one of the better kept secrets of Cryptic and falls under the "Have all the accounts in the world until we need a reason to ban you" category. The ToS says nothing about multi accounting, but a dev or CM years ago mentioned that you probably shouldn't have more than two. I definitely have more. Granted, I rarely use them because there are not many use-cases since you cannot reliably resub for VIP these days with the exchange being broken.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator

    modlesie said:

    Event for Rich players?

    Imagine the tears once we all find out we're getting Vanity Pets for 10M+.
    They confirmed on Reddit that it will not be a vanity pet (don't know if that's for all the eggs or just the mythic though).

    greywynd said:

    Great event for people with multiple accounts.
    And supposedly this is forbidden...
    Hypocrisis level hard, lol.

    Where does it say having multiple accounts is forbidden?
    It's low-key one of the better kept secrets of Cryptic and falls under the "Have all the accounts in the world until we need a reason to ban you" category. The ToS says nothing about multi accounting, but a dev or CM years ago mentioned that you probably shouldn't have more than two. I definitely have more. Granted, I rarely use them because there are not many use-cases since you cannot reliably resub for VIP these days with the exchange being broken.
    From my understanding (and CS may have changed policies, so please know that they always have the final say), having more than one account is not a violation in and of itself, but your multiple accounts are not supposed to interact with each other. No sending items back and forth via mail or whatnot.
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  • rockster#6227 rockster Member Posts: 1,860 Arc User
    Apparently what a full set is worth. Seen a few minutes ago.

    Apparently pointing-out the bleeding obvious is a 'personal attack'.
  • yamioni#9870 yamioni Member Posts: 55 Arc User

    Nice, thought-provoking, risk-taking and wealth redistributing event shaking people out of their daily complacent routine.

    It's as much "wealth redistributing" as a lottery is. And that's exactly what this is, a lottery.

    A "fair" system would distribute the eggs completely at random (with an even distribution, obviously, to maximize the number of full sets in circulation.) However, that just means that a "poor" could get the egg worth the least, and a "rich" could get the most expensive one. It's a total crapshoot, and there is no way to design an event like this so that wealth is "redistributed" fairly without implementing an unfair lottery.

    But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the "poors" get more mythics and the "rich" get more bottom tier. Who knows? My data point is that my net worth is only about 2M AD, and I got a legendary (which proves nothing, just saying that's my data point.)

    I'm looking forward to seeing someone(s) data mine the event and reveal what Cryptic's true intentions were. Be good for a laugh.
  • thany#4351 thany Member Posts: 267 Arc User
    Cryptic studio is optimistic. They believe in that they have huge player base in this game... What they did with this dragon eggs "event" it could pass only in wow in their's better days.
  • mwkmwk Member Posts: 427 Arc User
    Cryptic is treating this egg event like bitcoin!
  • callumf#9018 callumf Member Posts: 1,710 Arc User
    I just had to comment on this.

    What a really odd thing to try and do - 14 accounts get nothing, 1 account gets something. I mean really?

    Yeah on one hand I am like "wow this is genius at work" on the other " who could have conceived of a plan so badly?"

    I keep thinking of the tale of The Emperors New Clothes is this an event anyone is actually going to do?

    As in the only "event" part is having the cahunas to spend so much AD on the Auction House... [is that even an event?]

    So many questions.

    *grabs some popcorn*
  • chaderickrax#3780 chaderickrax Member Posts: 245 Arc User

    I love this event.

    It is kind of a Robin Hood event, transferring AD from the not-so-poor to the poor, which is a good thing.

    And there is a lot of suspense and wild guessing.
    What do we get when we open the eggs?
    Is it worth it spending millions of AD to get a mythic egg?
    Is it worth it paying 100k's for a single egg?

    Nice, thought-provoking, risk-taking and wealth redistributing event shaking people out of their daily complacent routine.
    Pure genius :)

    Since most people won't get a mythic egg I think it is obvious that the reward from it will not be anything that will not be obtainable by other means. My guess is that the eggs will drop the new enchantments.

    If the item in the egg is worth the cost, then the poor get enough to make some significant adjustments, and the rich get much, much richer because they (and they alone) have something of incredible rarity and power that none of the individual "poor" could have managed to afford singly.

    You're mischaracterizing what this is doing.

    One rich person gives millions to over a dozen poor people, and in return gets a set of items that (better be) worth millions.

    The game imbalance only gets worse, because none of those poor people have been improved far beyond their starting place, while the fabulously wealthy player just got something even more superpowered...and remains fabulously wealthy in all likelihood.

  • chaderickrax#3780 chaderickrax Member Posts: 245 Arc User

    This event does not give to the poor. It takes advantage of them. Eggs are starting at 500k and going up to millions.

    The haves will have them, the have nots will watch.

    Exactly.
  • mentinmindmakermentinmindmaker Member Posts: 1,492 Arc User
    edited December 2021

    This event does not give to the poor. It takes advantage of them. Eggs are starting at 500k and going up to millions.

    The haves will have them, the have nots will watch.

    Exactly.
    Actually.. it all comes down to what the value of the eggs really is in the end. If it is more than the market value for the eggs, the rich win. If it is less, the poor win.

    And I have changed my guess at what the eggs contain.. I now think they will contain motes to do upgrades with. Giving out mythic or legendary enchants probably is way too much. The eggs WERE free, after all.

    Anyways I think this is a fun event :) Really turning the marketplace on its head :)

    And I will be holding on to mine - not selling. I might regret it :) Or not.
  • stark760stark760 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 654 Arc User
    Just don't buy any off the AH in the mysterious crate still. They've been sifted through, 90-95% of the crates on AH are rare quality if you buy it.
  • stark760stark760 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 654 Arc User
    Was thinking maybe dragon mount, but i think now on 2nd thought, it might not be possible for that. Thinking Elminster companion maybe?
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