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oxyma
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Just another whining threads to whine about the things that should be added to the game:
- New races we have been waiting for centuries... Tabaxi, Koblod, Lizardfolk, Warforged, Triton, Tortle, Bugbear, etc
- And the new classes like Bard, Druid, Monk, Artificer, etc
- We need support roles that can buff allies and debuff enemies.
Would be cool to see this D&D game get some new interesting additions.
- New races we have been waiting for centuries... Tabaxi, Koblod, Lizardfolk, Warforged, Triton, Tortle, Bugbear, etc
- And the new classes like Bard, Druid, Monk, Artificer, etc
- We need support roles that can buff allies and debuff enemies.
Would be cool to see this D&D game get some new interesting additions.
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1) HEALER: Soulweaver, Oathkeeper, Devout, NEW
2) TANK: Sentinel, Justicar, Vangaurd, NEW
3) SUPPORT (DPS) Hellbringer, Arcanist, NEW, NEW
4) MELEE (DPS) Blademaster, Assassin, Dreadnought, Warden
5) RANGE (DPS) Hunter, Shadowknife, Thaumaturge, Arbiter
This is just a concept im putting forward... where each category would make a full team of 5.
Support would lag on DPS output by 5-25%, but would gain abilities that augment team damage.
L.M.F.A.O.,
You are a rogue right? technically you have more support encounters/daylies then warlocks have right now with courage breaker, smoke bomb/dazing strike/impact shot cc,wicked reminder, shadow strike, vengeance's Pursuit and disheartening Strike why not turn your class into a support? yeah take away from 5-25% of the rogue's dps and add more buffs/debuffs to those encounters and make some of them for the entire party and we will have the perfect dps support class we won't even need 4 of them
At any rate... all of you missed the point in your frenzy to save the plight of the warlock. The end locations don't matter, its the 5 categories that are the point of the idea.
My wife has suggested they add Freeform Slots as they did in Champions. However I would see that as a database engineer's nightmare. Not to mention how adding one class wrecks the game mechanics for months if not years. Before I would ask for more, I would ask them to repair and maintenance what they have so content can be their focus.
I think they added Oathbound Paladins the last time years ago to this game, and they came in over powered. Naturally everyone wanted to play the over powered OP... or the OPOP. The problem is they had to be impaired and in doing so made the players angry and upset they put so much effort in building a new character to have it nerfed. To bring balance to the game, they had to rearrange other class powers to offset the power of the paladins that affect the powers of the other classes.
Then most users ask for QC (quality control) in the creation process. Fine, but are you willing wait 2 years while a small QC lab stress tests the game mechanics on just adding one class? According to my wife, there are very few players who bother to test the new stuff on preview, she gave up on testing because the community doesn't care. A few users want Cryptic to not only create the new classes, but to release them in perfect working order without any kind of durable benchmarks and testing. This is asking for trouble.
When I play P&P, as the DM I can "fudge" the numbers to make the game work. I am a human, not a pocket calculator reading a huge complex database. The game mechanics at my table are flexible. When someone sits down and wants to make an over powered character, I can deal with it on a case by case basis. This is not playing favourites, it is allowing everyone to have some fun with a sense of danger. Computer games might seem colossal at times, because so many people work on them, but they are still governed by the old If... then... else statement.
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I encourage players to be more original thinkers and I love it when they don't follow my breadcrumbs and head off in their own direction. One such event occurred when a small creature stole a simple sword in a cave. The player said, we need to head back to the store in town. I thought he meant to simply replace the sword he lost. However he went back to town to spend more gold on mining equipment to retrieve the lost sword from the cave... people are amazing.
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Unless you are writing officially sanctioned novels, canon in D&D is always a smorgasbord of take what you like and leave the rest. And even the novelists take liberties.
As far as predictions go, considering they are re-balancing healing in M19, for skill node balancing, and existing NPCs that Druid and/or Bard are in the works for part 3 of the Zariel Saga.
NW has Jarl Storvald take the Ring of Winter from Artus Cimber despite the tabletop sourcebook saying that this can't happen.
NW has Ras Nsi a direct servant of Acerack who gets resurrected and later killed at will. In the sourcebook, he is allied to Acerack but will switch sides without hesitation if he learns who his responsible for the death curse.
In NW' Undermountain story, Trobriand has turned himself into a robot/golem because of his 'frail body' In the sourcebook, he is temporarily possessing a golem he built, because he is bored. Arcturia and Trobriand in NW are responsible for a plot to steal people souls to power an army of golems. In the tabletop, neither is doing any such thing and Arcturia isn't even hostile unless the PCs destroyed her phylactery before the meet her.
I am pretty sure the NW team aren't officially changing the actual WotC canon here.
As far as a new class and the PH, the race we recently got wasn't from there but another supplement and we still don't have last core race.
This is how you make this work here;
You get the Freeform slot make a new character and when it gets to class you fill in a blank (checking for obscene words of course). Then you are allowed to pick from all powers as you progress in the game. And there would need to be budgets of course. Assuming I am building a custom class, I start by calling it Druid, then I pick the base powers. I would then be able to choose from animations such as the rangers plant and nature based skills to create custom powers that would be budgeted by my level. This way the player cannot make the character overpowered. The animation of vines attacking and summoning deer as the dryads do in the River District is the most important part of playing the class, the player would be given a choice from a library of animations. The only thing that would remain is making the druid appear as a druid in the game.
As my husband called it a nightmare, I call it a dream, but I will keep dreaming.
Jerry Holkins is Omin Dran and has been written into Ed Greenwood's Death Masks page 196. IF that is not enough, WoC will sell you... the module on their site.
The better news is the original characters from this game have made it to canon such as Makos and Celeste, found in books and software other than Cryptic Studios. In short, when it appears in this game, WoC gets to claim it, sell it, and enslave it.
There has to be SOME restrictions even if it allows 90% freedom, becuase without it everyone uses the same meta build since everyone can use it.
City of Heroes with archetypes and power pools actually allowed you to make better and more close to the idea in your head than Champions freeform does.