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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    I had heard there would be changes to lightnng in Mod 13, though I don't know how it affects Steel Blitz. I'm still running it at the moment. Does anyone know anything more concrete?
  • c3rb3r3c3rb3r3 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    @santralafax I've tested it multiple times both before mod 12 and after and there has never been an interaction between each other
  • vaashievaashie Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    @c3rb3r3 That's not entirely true. I've done some further testing and Lightning chains proc Steel Blitz on secondary targets when you use WMS even if you don't hit said targets with WMS itself. This works both on preview and live.
  • c3rb3r3c3rb3r3 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    Is it possible to reach 100% crit using R13 black ice enchants and without a 4k crit mount nor weapon master class feature ?
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    c3rb3r3 said:

    Is it possible to reach 100% crit using R13 black ice enchants and without a 4k crit mount nor weapon master class feature ?

    :3 I can check in a bit, though it may dip into your backpage needing other stats if you go that route, be a little more descriptive on what you´d want looked into.
  • c3rb3r3c3rb3r3 Member Posts: 277 Arc User

    c3rb3r3 said:

    Is it possible to reach 100% crit using R13 black ice enchants and without a 4k crit mount nor weapon master class feature ?

    :3 I can check in a bit, though it may dip into your backpage needing other stats if you go that route, be a little more descriptive on what you´d want looked into.
    The aim is to be able to use Wrathful Determination instead of Weapon Master. Right now I use mostly R11 brutals with 2 companion ring with each being 1 off/def and same with my 2 rings, meaning I have still 4 off slots available, with around 83% crit without weapon master.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    > @c3rb3r3 said:
    > Is it possible to reach 100% crit using R13 black ice enchants and without a 4k crit mount nor weapon master class feature ?
    >
    > :3 I can check in a bit, though it may dip into your backpage needing other stats if you go that route, be a little more descriptive on what you´d want looked into.
    >
    > The aim is to be able to use Wrathful Determination instead of Weapon Master. Right now I use mostly R11 brutals with 2 companion ring with each being 1 off/def and same with my 2 rings, meaning I have still 4 off slots available, with around 83% crit without weapon master.

    ^•^ How about we make this easier on the both of us, pm me your current Gear/Enchantments/Active Comp/Stable

    Then I’ll get a better understanding of what I’m working with to attempt your wishes. Cx
  • c3rb3r3c3rb3r3 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    I think it's not possible, need to tweak some Black Ice for Brutals. Another question : Mod 13 Trans Lightning vs Trans Feytouched at single target, what's the best and to what extent (like 1.2 times better) ?
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    In another thread, RJC9000 (sp?) was suggesting lightning would be top single target due to lightning now critting (in Mod 13)
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    > @c3rb3r3 said:
    > I think it's not possible, need to tweak some Black Ice for Brutals. Another question : Mod 13 Trans Lightning vs Trans Feytouched at single target, what's the best and to what extent (like 1.2 times better) ?

    > @santralafax said:
    > In another thread, RJC9000 (sp?) was suggesting lightning would be top single target due to lightning now critting (in Mod 13)

    Since lightning will be so close to most enchantments I’d likely say use that all round, maybe toss on a Fey for Orcus if you’re the damage dealer, but Holy still beats it a lil’ for overall if you can kill the boss during that time. But it’s not really worth the tiny increase... cx Once all those things are Set I’ll update the M13 Section to literally be a section, but for now it’ll stay as is. ^-^
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User




    Since lightning will be so close to most enchantments I’d likely say use that all round, maybe toss on a Fey for Orcus if you’re the damage dealer, but Holy still beats it a lil’ for overall if you can kill the boss during that time. But it’s not really worth the tiny increase... cx Once all those things are Set I’ll update the M13 Section to literally be a section, but for now it’ll stay as is. ^-^

    Pretty much.

    I would like to add that, if you find you often run with an OP, Fey might be better for single target, as it booses.

    Additionally, if you use IBS often, you will also find Fey to be your best single target enchant, since Fey does alright for your at-wills and Fey is the best enchantment to buff your IBS hits.

  • geno82geno82 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    Little question... What is with Drow as race? Never i saw a endgear Gwf Drow. But the Debuff is near permanent on Boss an its 5% Defense debuff so... Maybe in endgroup 3-4% more damage... With Dragonborn i cant never gain 3% more Damage with dragonborn i have maybe 1.5-2% Yeah dragonborn have strength but 1point strength is like 400 Power... And that's like 0.2% Damage in endgame group... So why Not Drow? May i have an error in my thoughts. When yes say it me please
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    geno82 said:

    Little question... What is with Drow as race? Never i saw a endgear Gwf Drow. But the Debuff is near permanent on Boss an its 5% Defense debuff

    Idk if GWF has it perma up, but I don't think even MoF has it perma up.
    geno82 said:

    Maybe in endgroup 3-4% more damage...

    In endgame groups, the Drow Racial debuff is closer to 1-2% DPS increase, maybe not even a single % DPS increase depending on how strong the debuffs are in your team.
    This is due to debuff diminishing returns and the way debuff DPS increases are calculated.
    geno82 said:

    L With Dragonborn i cant never gain 3% more Damage with dragonborn i have maybe 1.5-2% Yeah dragonborn have strength but 1point strength is like 400 Power..

    Not quite the same.

    400 Power is only a 1% increase in DPS if you are adding 400 Power, starting out from 0. Which won't happen on any GWF who has any bit of gear.

    Also keep in mind that points in STR also are partially influenced your Disciple of Strength feat.
    I have not conclusively tested the feat, but if GWF is similar to GF, then I would guess that it multiplies the damage bonus you get from STR by 1.06x.

    Really, if you want to play Drow GWF, play what you want. You will just have to accept that it is not as strong as Half Orc or Lizard in terms of max damage.

  • geno82geno82 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    I thoght the damage from strength is same with Power damage and not Real 1% more per point.. Is my thought wrong? Is 1 str point really 1% more damage? In every case 1%
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    geno82 said:

    I thoght the damage from strength is same with Power damage and not Real 1% more per point.. Is my thought wrong? Is 1 str point really 1% more damage? In every case 1%

    They add to their own categories in the damage formula, but their categories are multiplicative with each other.

    Needless to say, the damage formula is a bit ... of a mess...

  • geno82geno82 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited May 2018
    Thx
    Post edited by geno82 on
  • zate#1575 zate Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    Ok this saves me money. So don’t stress about getting two enchants, just go with lightning? I have UP holy but now I’m probably just going to sell it, get lightning, and then used my saved AD for a legendary
  • zate#1575 zate Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    Quick follow up. How much of a damage increase on boss fights would it be if you have fey vs lightning? Are we talking 2%, 5%, 10%?

    Trying to see if worthwhile to invest in 2nd enchant.

    Thank you
    (Assume you always have AOC in group)
  • gromovnipljesak#8234 gromovnipljesak Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    zate#1575 said:

    Quick follow up. How much of a damage increase on boss fights would it be if you have fey vs lightning? Are we talking 2%, 5%, 10%?



    Trying to see if worthwhile to invest in 2nd enchant.



    Thank you

    (Assume you always have AOC in group)

    There's no single number to answer you. It heavily depends on party composition.
  • malvolio11malvolio11 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    For some reason all the links in this build give me "discussion not found"
  • geno82geno82 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    2 little questions...

    1. I have All my off enchants R14 Black ice and 100% crit. Why do you recommend a dual stat enchant is better? The Black ice have 700 Power... Give a hidden Trick that's i dont know?

    2. I habe seen in many builds 800hp is better as 200power on armor... When i have the choice is 16.000 HP better as an 4000 Power Mount? I run every time with a AoC Pala.. What u think about this? Thanks to all
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator

    For some reason all the links in this build give me "discussion not found"

    That was a result of the sections being merged into 1. The links *should* be fixed now (though they all go to the same thread).
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  • sbotking10sbotking10 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    Found the link before i found this on the forums XD
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