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Any reason why CW has no defensive capabilities in any of the paragon trees ?
pjohnny1
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Besides the obvious answer of they have control . Pretty much all classes including other control classes have access to them . Just don't understand why cw got zero defensive capabilities besides a single encouter .
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shield is defensive
repel is defensive
entangling force is defensive
maelstrom of chaos is defensive..
chaotic growth defensive (sorta) ,.
aside from that tons of hit points life steal deflect .....
the 50k hitpoint armor
potions pots ..
lots of movement ..lots of action point gain / stamina gain
insignia bonuses with healing / movement
but ya basically there are no stats a cw can do without at a min in moderation .. unlike some classes
PROVIDES IMMUNITY TO DAMAGE.
Drops Mic.
besides the Op was talking about paragon trees : D or passive mechanics i think
I was talking about paragon or passive mechanics . I was waiting to see if anyone would could point out another class without a paragon or passive mechanic for defensive capabilities.
@greywynd
I guess my definition of a glass cannon is different than yours . CW do plenty of damage overtime and after building stacks up but wouldn't call them a nuke em class. GWF or even GF fit the description of bursty glass cannon nuke em class more than CW . Although you probably should remove the glass part since they are not squishy.
> oh does dodge provide immunity or mitigation if you are hit with a dot ...?
> besides the Op was talking about paragon trees : D or passive mechanics i think
Just having a little fun. And commenting from a strictly PVE perspective as well.
Defensive feats for a CW: Toughness, Battlewise, Serve Reaction, Cold Infusion, Energy Recovery, Chaos Magic
Those aren't great but CW do have some feats that are a bit defensive.
If you are wondering why a CW does not have defensive feats it is because in the D&D, real D&D not the HAMSTER that is out today, a Wizard is a true glass cannon. They do really high damage (highest out of all classes) but had lowest HP and worst armor. Wizards were balanced this way as they were needed at higher levels for massively destructive spells such as Fireball, Disintegrate, Imprisonment, etc...
NW unfortunately cannot make the game like this or all DPS would be wizards due to the high damage they can do. Since this game is more off D&D 4e and 5e what we get is a limp version of a true D&D wizard that is still somewhat fragile when compared to other classes but its damage is not what a true wizard can produce.
So we get the CW in NW. a wannabe Wizard in the D&D realm. Yet our CW can wear heavy armor and still cast spells.
I rather have an old school true glass cannon D&D wizard, not the CW we get in NW.
On the other hand: It was said before, but a lot of class (and CW of course) is struggling with paragon tree feat choices, because most of them suck. And because they have very little to choose from, they are missing a lot, like defensive skills or diversity.
Every class in the game with exception of CW has either a heroic , paragon , or class specific Dr/Deflection option . I checked every class they all have either a damage resistance or deflection increase . Only thing you can control in this game is trash mobs .
@ellybeats
I can't believe someone actually mentioned HR , I would run around without my robe on to have the option to have aspect of the lone wolf . Lol a passive 20% deflection chance with a 2% increase for every enemy upto 10% . Besides the 3% deflection chance you can take in the heroic tree. Plus dex being stacked for HR will increase deflection chance passively . So a Archery HR has the option to sit at or over 30% deflect passively .
Archery is so bad because of the way they designed the class , they miss out on all the party buffs by virtue of the design of that paragon . Defense statistically is better except when it is bypassed which it can be by debuffs and armor penetration. Deflect on the other hand can't be debuffed , armor penetration has no effect on it , and you can deflect cc . Defense is better in that it isn't a percent chance of reduction of damage its a straight percent damage reduction. This all besides the point of that as a HR playing the Archery paragon you have the OPTION to spec for deflect or slot a passive for deflect if you want to.
However, the devs see no problem with NOT updating our class, since mod 6 I believe, thus we have a lot of CC hidden in our powers, in a game which, for the most part and where it matters, does not allow for any crowd control - bosses, elites monsters, giants.
There, mystery solved. We have defense, a lot of it, but it is literally turned off.
Yeah there are some defensive things here and there, but the reason why there are few is this. Crowd Control is gone, but Control Wizard still has a lot of it.
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