PvP Build TR Mod10 on PC

danntedairon · December 2016

Hey u guys!
I'm backing to NW after 2 years and I love TR PvP, I stopped on Mod5 (I think) and I played Perma Stealth TR it was very fun!!
So guys, there is some Perma Stealth TR build working well on Mod10 and if not, can u guys show me some PvP (or hybrid PvP/PvE) build most popular?
Ah, i'm playing on PC.
Thanks!!

Obd.: Sorry about my poor english, unfortunately it is not my mother tongue =(

demonmonger · December 2016

Sabo, permanent stealth works.. I use it

danntedairon · December 2016

demonmonger said:
Sabo, permanent stealth works.. I use it

Thanks man!!
Based on you said me I did a build in a calc, can u say me if it is good or how can I turn it better?

https://nwcalc.com/index.html#/tr?b=347y:xoj9y9:9m9s:9fxzs,12n0505:1z00zuv:1000000:1uu0000&h=0&p=wkn&o=0

Thanks more one time!

demonmonger · December 2016

@morenthar can comment on whisper knife better than I can

demonmonger · December 2016

I would go with smoke bomb for pvp always.. as sabo it will refill stealth and area daze players. Great for offensive or defensive purposes

gdm · December 2016

Dagger threat is bugged.

trentbail21 · December 2016

Pc players play sab lol? WISH I PLAYED ON PC! Kind of sick of pretty much dying one hit with a 170k dunk and an 85k shadow of demise a few seconds later. =D

jaxom · December 2016

I am trying Sab as well, both in PvE and PvP, and I am thoroughly enjoying it. It's nice to find a build that works that doesn't have to be the usual meta (thanks demonmonger for your help and advice)

demonmonger · December 2016

Np

danntedairon · December 2016

For perma stealth need I full int or neh?!

demonmonger · December 2016

No you just need sabo about 4k recovery and proper feats

crowdsourced · January 2017

trentbail21 said:
Pc players play sab lol? WISH I PLAYED ON PC! Kind of sick of pretty much dying one hit with a 170k dunk and an 85k shadow of demise a few seconds later. =D

You should look up Tardli. Haxxident is his current name I believe. He doesn't have his own youtube channel but you can see him through other people's videos. He is saboteur I think.

I think he is the best active PVP Trickster Rogue among PC Dragon, PC Drider, Xbox or PS4 servers. Anyone who disagrees feel free to post or private message me videos of other Rogues.

demonmonger · January 2017

What makes a trickster good?

rustlord · January 2017

Well, tr vs tr... tr vs other... one shots... not dying.... pvehhdps3xr12bondzz? Just never seen a tr do all that "best" compare to all trs. maybe one in each specialization. Lol this reminds of the "who's best TR thread" in early mod 3 days turned pissing contest

crowdsourced · January 2017

demonmonger said:
What makes a trickster good?

There are 2 levels. The first is not dying to any class and being able to eventually clear any class other than DC or Paladin. Rogues should also know how to protect any teammates they have on the node using smoke bomb and courage breaker to prevent it from being capped as well as time their shocking execution when an opponent is proned.

The higher level which apart from a few rogues, nobody understands is using their speed and momentum to quickly run to a node to cap it, steal it or prevent the other team from capping it. A rogue, GWF and Warlock has the ability to protect 2 nodes. Let's say you are on the middle node and one of your pugs got cleared at node 3 that you own. The opponent starts stealing it. The rogue should be able to go to node 3, prevent it from being captured, once your pug teammate has revived and come back, quickly go back to the middle node before it gets captured.

I don't know how many people can comprehend the 2nd paragraph I wrote which makes me disappointed.

demonmonger · January 2017

I understand. .. and with mobility 14000 I can defend all three nodes from any position.

crowdsourced · January 2017

demonmonger said:
I understand. .. and with mobility 14000 I can defend all three nodes from any position.

Then I hope more pugs are able to understand the importance of nodes and how to leverage them in case someone gets cleared or if your team clears someone like you do

demonmonger · January 2017

Most pugs don't have the speed or survivability to travel to one node let alone two .. they are dead on arrival

guille23mx · January 2017

crowdsourced#3904 said:

trentbail21 said:
Pc players play sab lol? WISH I PLAYED ON PC! Kind of sick of pretty much dying one hit with a 170k dunk and an 85k shadow of demise a few seconds later. =D
You should look up Tardli. Haxxident is his current name I believe. He doesn't have his own youtube channel but you can see him through other people's videos. He is saboteur I think.

I think he is the best active PVP Trickster Rogue among PC Dragon, PC Drider, Xbox or PS4 servers. Anyone who disagrees feel free to post or private message me videos of other Rogues.

You can't be serious. IMHO Actives Legends:Demomonger,Rustlord,Morenthar,Brollax ... there maybe more.
Back in the day Legends: Keltz0r,Blacksheep,Sicarius,Nanners,Stylin,Jerkface, just to name a few.

crowdsourced · January 2017

guille23mx said:

You can't be serious. IMHO Actives Legends:Demomonger,Rustlord,Morenthar,Brollax ... there maybe more.
Back in the day Legends: Keltz0r,Blacksheep,Sicarius,Nanners,Stylin,Jerkface, just to name a few.

I agree with your 'Back in the day Legends' list. Those are all elite Rogues and in fact some of them are the best who ever played. However, based on performance and Ryu's latest video, I will say that Tardli and Brollax are the best TRs at the moment but a lot of it is because so many Rogues quit the game.

overdriver13 · March 2017

More threads like this please. I played last night for the first time in a couple years, TR exe, PvP. Still fun with that class anyways, always being in either itc or stealth makes up a lot for the gear differential.

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rustlord · March 2017

If I could just challenge your point LOL! I suggest start playing WK before to get used to it, because if the competence of our devs is in question, it's more likely they'd nerf the existing meta only so that viable builds would shift over to a polar reverse -- but you know just as broken as ever, if not worse.

morenthar said:
I'm only a legend as a WK. There are a few high-performing TRs in PvP these days, but they have a very large "*" by their names. They are abusing the living hell out of SE.

Get your recovery up over 10k (one I saw with 15k) and you have ITC at your disposal nearly constantly and rotate back to SE like crazy. It's going to be amusing to see some of them play a TR after the rework, because those crutches will likely be gone.

My best suggestion is to not play a WK until the rework. At that time you will see me in IWP on Preview 75% of my gaming time.

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mousebreaker85 · April 2017

Yes but back in the day TR was on a whole different level than the broken disappointment we are left with now.
Keeping competitive with a TR today
TRs like quill Haxx James N0t0 that can work with what we have and still come out on top takes so much more skill than the pre mod 5 god TR in which a super pally could keep anything safe,bosses had 1/3 of the AOE they do now and didn't move around instead just stayed still for a noob level tank and spank
Now rotation timing comes down to millisecs precision with absolutely 0 room for error rooms are filled with red circles we have reflect damage ,mobs see through stealth now ,stuns and dazes no longer work on bosses,can't just stand behind a boss with impunity anymore concentrating on the perfect rotation.
I would really be interested in seeing some day 1 Rogues go into a FBI run today and see how they do.
I think the results would be ....surprising...

mercedesman · April 2017

I will add what I have found not to work (for me at least). I do not care for the SE/Perma stealth builds so I chose to go MI Exe with some tankiness from Scoundrel. I wanted to brawl face to face so I stacked armpen such that I now have 157.3% RI. I boost my power using Whirlwind of Blades (should work wonders on node 2 in the beginning of a match) but with all that RI, even from stealth, I cannot do much damage at all to pretty much any class other than a squishy rouge. I am sharing this as I revisited PVP last night from a two month break and after three matches I revisited my frustrations from before. Sadly, this evening I will scrap my rouge and sell off parts to fund another toon for PVE, which will undoubtedly be a source of disappointment as well.

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mousebreaker85 · April 2017

@morenthar
Yeah I really never realized how much recovery mattered I played a sabo build before and with our 2 great cooldown reducing feats if you went over 7k it was kinda a waste .so instead we tried to eek out every drop of power
So when we switched to MI/exec it was hard to reprogram muscle memory to switch rotations because when you do something so many times it becomes instinctive
I think loadouts will help as we can go sabo in dungeons as it is much better on trash mobs then at bosses switch to executioner where it would shine on longer fights .
But you are def right we need at minimum a PVE buff / more utility /and some overall balancing or tweaking some of our powers that are horrid
A lot are just <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> when you get power points it's almost a waste cause you can't really think of anything to use em on

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demonmonger · April 2017

Amen... we don't do enough damage with a full 5 sets of df on a target, yet they can one rotate us to death and are not even dps.

PvP Build TR Mod10 on PC

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