Prot Paladin Divine Protector

armadeonx · January 2017

@mimicking#6533 Please consider that since Divine Protector has been reduced in effectiveness from 100% to 60% (thus putting it on a similar footing to Knights Valor), that increasing its uptime would be reasonable?

Six seconds is an extremely short duration, especially in a Boss fight. I understand the reduction in effectiveness to remove invulnerability whilst it's up, but waiting until you see the 'oh *#$!' moment before popping it often results in failure.

I'm sure your analytics will show that most Pallys have stopped using the skill altogether and are using the less effective (but more reliable) Shield of Faith, simply because of its uptime being more appropriate for fighting.

For future consideration (i.e. the OP class rebalance) I feel it would be worth reworking the two skills completely. Having two Dailies that do essentially the same thing but to different degrees is a bit of a waste.

Personally I'd like to see SoF have it's effectiveness increased slightly (with the same duration) but DP changed completely. Perhaps to an aoe debuff or group damage buff? I'm sure you're aware that most Pallys complaints center around the buffing difference between the GF and OP, having a group buff Daily that is on a similar footing to Into The Fray would greatly improve the utility of the class.

mistran · January 2017

after all the nerf to the op i have completly stopped playing him, my 2.1k il gf does a better job in protecting my party, my 2.3k il dc does abetter job in buffing my party, so whats the use of a palladin these days anyway?

vcek · January 2017

i would rather suggest changing the AP used to 50% or 75% rather than 100% and adding a 10-seconds cooldown.

ryonas · January 2017

Well For Shield of Faith 75% would seem reasonable

But what needs to be fixed is make 500% Threat Generation working
it is not working as stated

Paragon Path is not working as Stated here is screenshot

Question 1:
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What are the conditions for 500% Threat Generation to work??

Question 2
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If it is Passive Power did you test it is working as stated ?

For this Question let OP answer themselves ?
starting with me does not work

Fix to it >> let us say 500% Threat Generation on damage Taken in any form Damage inflicted on HP, Temporary HP, Guard Bar (Blue Bar from Binding Oath or Absloute) >> This way it works without contradicting with Paladin Encounters that needs to be used for his survival

If it is done that way that would make it with better and easier conditions for the programmer to make threat work

armadeonx · January 2017

To be honest my threat generation works now I have good DPS. 500% threat means you need to deal at least 20% of the DPS of the biggest hitter in your party & also combat any marking ability they have. What would be really useful with that is adding Resistance Ignored to the Constitution Ability Score as presently you need to add all points directly but RI is absolutely essential, you cannot generate sufficient threat without it.

@vcek Divine Protector at 60% is ok with me but when you consider that GF's can run a 50% transfer indefinitely via an encounter whereas OP's get 60% for 6 seconds via a Daily it does suggest an imbalance.

My point is that if Shield of Faith gave a 40% damage reduction at current duration then they could remove the bubble completely and cover the other side of the Pally issue which is increasing group DPS. There is only one reason why players choose GF's over OP's and that is 'Into The Fray'. A flat 30% boost to group DPS is very attractive and always leaves OP as second choice for a tank.

The alternative to that would be a wide AoE debuff, e.g. aura range - enemies take ~30% more damage. Seeing as this would leave the OP in the position of having to choose between party protection (SoF) and party buff (new DP) I'd consider this both balanced and attractive.

ryonas · January 2017

Here is my problem for my OP Tank being 2,5 it can not do 20% of the DPS of 4k GFW or other DPS class, but it is good to know it work by having DPS
another thing I would agree is adding resistance ignored would help lowbies (me) a lot to optimize for damage mitigation with little DPS to get aggro

+1 on Resistance Ignored on Constitution

armadeonx · January 2017

@ryonas you may want to consider a Lightning weapon enchantment as it's good for threat gen in mobs. It doesn't do as well on single target atm but the devs are experimenting with boosting it.

darnximxdead · January 2017

personally would like too see:

Divine touch - dmg increased

binding oath - for some reason, i kind of would like a vacuum/pull-in effect up to 5 mobs(doesn't affect players).

Banishment - reworked/replaced with something else.

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divine protector, i cant see it going pass 8 seconds duration, anymore they would have too just make shield of faith devotion only and make healing font for both instead of Shield of faith. [imo]

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Prot Paladin Divine Protector

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