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dunaught
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New even calendar is out and no double AD event thru the weekend of March 3rd. Very disappointing.
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For those that save salvage that's a lot of space they'll need.
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That seems counter intuitive to how this game has been run since I joined a month or so after release on Xbox in may 2015. I don't recall going more than 2-3 months without 2xAD, so to say they are rare is not true. To say they are only for balancing of the economy is the line I remember reading way back when the PC guys would complain about not having the event, but their zax was capped at 500 due to botters and leadership armies.
I'm not one to complain on here, but I don't feel like your comment was helpful or reassuring of the direction of the game. I hope its not "quite some time" before a 2xAD because they did just effect the economy by enforcing the key change on our market unexpectedly and with short notice compared to the PC. I hope your comments aren't indicative of the future because that could likely mean the majority of the playbase has seen their last 2xAD event and maybe the last one for the Xbox version.
Rare mounts were upward of 100k before the Festival, now they're barely over 30k.
I'm not even bothered about this.
As for tymora's ive saved all mine for a 2xAD nothing else comes out of them just like experience rewards I save them for 2xAD.
Simply my point was that we've had these events regularly since the start and truthfully the market has been pretty level for awhile, so why stop them? It's a f2p game and a new cost sink has been added, so give people options to get ad. Also consider, I saw in another post what sounds like pretty good drops so far, and if this is consistent many items like horns will possibly drop in price. People will be making less ad.
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The price of zen goes up because there is more fluid currency to buy it in the exchange. Therefore people buy more zen during and just after a double AD event and sell it.
Please stop using "... they want our money..." as justification for every bitching whining moan about something that isn't helping you get HAMSTER cheaper.
Its in the game's best interest to have a proper, functional, economy. Double AD works like quantitative easing, and isn't some divine right that should appear every time time your inventory and email is full of purple salvage.
The last one came when Zen was selling at about 250AD.
A week later it was 370...
I know that to PC players that sounds incredible, but you have to remember that (apparently anyway...) no one cares about XB players and all the love is for PC and PS4.
And while there's no evidence to back that up, if the US election has taught us anything, its that if enough people say it, it becomes the equivalent of a fact.
Mordekai is correct. I have been playing this game since just before T-Giving, and there are some significant spikes in the price of Zen tied to both double AD events and big Zen Market sales.
Both of these would be expected -
In the first case, players "cash out" a lot of salvage and immediately buy Zen. This drives the price of Zen up, which then causes other players (as noted by Mordekai) to buy Zen to convert to AD. Those sales will eventually cap the price and slowly drive the price back down as the market falls once the event ends.
In the second case, players just buy Zen directly to spend and or use the limited AD resources they have to buy Zen (driving up the price). In this case, the price of Zen moves up, but may not fall back as quickly because the players buying Zen directly may be spending the Zen on bought Zen Market goods (as opposed to just selling it back for AD). Nonetheless, at some point people will continue to buy Zen to trade for AD at the higher price, so a few days after the sale ends, you should expect to see the conversion rate fall back.
PS4 was locked around 330 while we had "Event Season," capped at 360ish during the above noted events, and currently is around 300, which means that either:
a) People are running out of AD to spend on Zen, as AG continues to pull in the corners on what can make you money; or
b) There is nothing worth buying on the market to sustain a constant demand for Zen (I'm looking at you, Giant's Lockbox)
The reason you need the occasional double AD event is because Arc is constantly removing 10% of the AD from the game via AH sales. If the rate of obtaining AD is lower than the 10%, you can expect the price of everything to continue to fall, to accommodate what people can afford, until there is no point in buying anything off of the Zen market because the AH equivalent is going to be like 50% or less of the Zen Market cost (yeah, that's you, Blood Ruby). At that point, they can either have a double AD event or again reduce the amount of available AD from everything (to "simulate") the old market pricing.
Think of it this way, if Blood Rubies cost the 1k Zen for 3, and Zen is 300 AD, then you are essentially paying 300,000 AD for 3 Blood Rubies. If the AH price of Blood Rubies is 40k AD each, you'd basically be a total idiot if you bought the rubies with Zen. You could get 7.5 rubies on the AH for the same price as 3 in the Zen market. "But I don't have AD or Zen!?!" - fine, buy the Zen, sell the Zen for AD, and still buy the 7.5 rubies.
If Arc has a double AD weekend, though, then the price of everything may shoot up 20-30% at least, as all of the "cheap" stuff gets snapped up off of the AH. This means that the Zen market prices begin to be closer to the AH prices, which means more people use Zen instead of AD to buy stuff. So even if all of the double AD does not immediately transition into Zen for buying stuff from the Zen market, it has the desired effect of clearing out the AH.
Keeping a large amount of AD in the market sustains high costs on the AH, which makes the fixed Zen Market pricing for things more reasonable by comparison. The goods are not completely interchangeable (some things are only one place or the other), but by looking at the prices on the goods that are available at both locations, you can see if ARC is doing a good job of maintaining the balance. Otherwise, people are either going to decide that they'll accept the marginal equivalent (on either side) based on a significant cost savings.
Long story short - double AD events should actually help Zen market sales, both immediately and longer-term.
Fair disclosure - I have 1,460 Frost Glove Boxes that I am waiting for a double AD event to shatter, and even then it is going to take 50 days to have 12 toons convert all that rough AD to usable cash, so I am highly biased towards encouraging Arc to have such an event...
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The exchange and economy on XB are doing fine, there's no need to artificially affect it.
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Should the value of AD rise too high, they may choose to rebalance with a double AD event, as eventually the people buying zen to sell will not see a high enough return on their real money investment.
But while there is still a fairly constant run of 200'000 zen on the board, its unlikely.
Even as the price hovers around 300:1