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I just came back after years away, lvl 60 was the max back then.
I spent a day or so running through quests, getting to lvl 70, and getting newer gear. Still not optimized of course. And I'd already had most of the boons (Icedale, Dread ring, Sharandar) completed from back then. But it was more or less fun and was looking forward to playing again for a while.
As of now, there are too many encounters that are either not beatable, or I have to go thru too many healing potions to do it (and will soon be running out). I'm on those floating islands, and it's nearly impossible to beat two giants at once. (I'm a CW).
I wondered if my gear still wasn't good enough, did some searching, and it looks like A LOT of people online are complaining of the difficulty level of many encounters in NWO nowadays.
WTH was this done? Is it supposed to be 'fun' to have to have an absolutely perfect performance and still maybe not survive and have to start all over? When I was here at lvl 60, I could do pretty much anything in the game, so long as I played well. Now it seems like playing well has nothing to do w/ it. I guess I'm supposed to grind and/or P2W to get top gear and upgrades, and then and only then go back and actually be able to survive this stuff?
Am I missing something?
I spent a day or so running through quests, getting to lvl 70, and getting newer gear. Still not optimized of course. And I'd already had most of the boons (Icedale, Dread ring, Sharandar) completed from back then. But it was more or less fun and was looking forward to playing again for a while.
As of now, there are too many encounters that are either not beatable, or I have to go thru too many healing potions to do it (and will soon be running out). I'm on those floating islands, and it's nearly impossible to beat two giants at once. (I'm a CW).
I wondered if my gear still wasn't good enough, did some searching, and it looks like A LOT of people online are complaining of the difficulty level of many encounters in NWO nowadays.
WTH was this done? Is it supposed to be 'fun' to have to have an absolutely perfect performance and still maybe not survive and have to start all over? When I was here at lvl 60, I could do pretty much anything in the game, so long as I played well. Now it seems like playing well has nothing to do w/ it. I guess I'm supposed to grind and/or P2W to get top gear and upgrades, and then and only then go back and actually be able to survive this stuff?
Am I missing something?
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I'm on those floating islands, and it's nearly impossible to beat two giants at once.
Something has changed, and not for the better.
Did you change your gear? The old good level 60 BiS gear means nothing now. You need at least the HAMSTER green/blue gear you pick up on the ground to replace the 'best' Epic stuff you had before.
Hell the Balor in the dwarven level, I couldn't even fight it. A bunch of cheesy one-hit-kills. I just stood back and watched my comp and the two NPCs fight it.
At this point, I just logged out. Too many other options out there. Hell, I've never even played WoW, might give it a try. I also have like 70 games purchased on Steam I've never even installed yet.
Best of luck.
1) Join a guild (if you haven't already) - as valuable as these forums are, you'll find a lot more people who can help you work through any issues in-game, as it happens. Likewise, you should be able to find people within the guild who can help you work through the zone encounters.
2) Do some digging for CW builds. MMOminds has some good examples, and I'm happy to share what I've used. Just PM/DM me. Just doing a re-spec took me from being turned into a puddle by anything and everything in Spinward rise to being able to effectively solo the zone.
3) Check your equipment. If you've been gone for a while, you're probably due for an upgrade. Likewise, there were some recent nerfs that could make what you've got completely obsolete. For example, if you're rocking a High Vizier's set, you'll need to get rid of that pretty quickly. Likewise if you have any legacy Lostmauth equip. The EE reward main-hand and off-hand equipment are all now makeable in professions, so you should be able to find them in the AH rather than slagging through encounters trying to get those motes.
4) Feel free to post/list your equipment and boons. We may be able to help with a couple simple (or even unfinished) things, even down to what you've got slotted.
As for fighting giants as a CW, slot single target powers and Icy Terrain. Keep moving, kite the giants so that they are always standing on your ice and wait for them to lock into a long animation,then unload with the single target powers. (I avoid Chill Strike because of its animation time but others like it)
With the extra HP of the new gear and by staying mobile, you should do much better. The same can be said of the Balor in Maze Engine, though it might have a charge attack. Slot Radiant enchants in your defense slots. Life Steal is great but hard to get at effective levels unless you're in a guild. You will probably want Darks for offense, to get your Armor Pen at a decent level.
I'm not sure survival isnt to bad for me as OP but killing things is a pain, seems im fighting to the quest just before the quest and them same on the way out and not 3-6 mobs 12-20 of them b/c it takes so long to kill i get more spawns and thanks to 90% of OP damage is aoe it draws all mobs close by.
Most places its not to bad but im in The Firey Pit and its crazy, i left it and came back after i got to 70 and currently 2k IL and its still a pain. I mean its hard for me to die but really who wants to spent that long on quests. I roughly have 20 hours in on The Fiery pit alone and not even 1/2 done. I completed the other 3 in that time. I pushed past the lacking of OP even though i heard many times to roll a different class due to the nerf, just thought it was ppl being well ppl. I am using a build(about the only one for 10.5)and pretty well geared.
So before i pack it in any advice, starting a new character is out im not starting all over b/c a class is broke.
A lot has changed since you left, my suggestion is ...
Get latest update on your character class check out class forum,
that's where you can get many good advises on class mechanics and build .
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/the-library
then get yourself into a guild there are lots of nice and helpful people still in NWO.
From there you can get guides, guild boons( bonus stats) also gearing help.
Go guild shoping at http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/categories/guild-recruitment-pc
"THB not sure... I noticed that too, that everything I was getting (quest rewards) had far more hitpoints, but usually lesser of everything else I'd had from years ago (I used to run w/ PvP gear actually).
At this point, I just logged out. Too many other options out there. Hell, I've never even played WoW, might give it a try. I also have like 70 games purchased on Steam I've never even installed yet.
Best of luck."
Seems to me this thread can now be closed
Actually you are definitely missing something. A couple very important somethings by the sounds of it. and your not the only one as seen by the comment that states
"Yup my OP and TR 3.3 & 2.8 IL's are the only 2 that can solo regular endgame maps. Op is much easier than a TR , Tr can do it but its much more work than the OP. The rest of my Alts have around 2.5 IL and struggle my HR can do some along with my DC
It's like they try to force you to play in a group and most times I don't have time to sit and wait and spam. "
IDK how people think end game content is hard. I started a OP and walked him through solo the entire SoMI map. and that was before runetroll fix. his IL even now is barely over 2k. My GF soloed the same area...much easier since he was a 2.6 doing it. oc those are tanks and have decent DR...on the other hand i just finished it on my lovely SW with a 2.3IL and just ensorc weapons and did almost all of it solo. so maybe SWs are OPed but that wouldnt explain my 1.9 CW doing this with no issues. is it the same as a lvl 70 walking through cloak tower? no it actually takes a little skill on the players half to do so. So IDK what you guys are missing, but there is definitely something.
If you start with Reclamation Rock you should easily get enough Mid end gear to get you through SR and REc rock takes a couple hours tops to complete. especially if you have the old 60 endgame pvp sets
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