Dungeon Key Changes Update

mimicking · December 2016

Greetings adventurers! I just wanted to give you all an update on the Dungeon key changes. After a lot of review and planning, we’ve completed all the updates, changes and fixes, all of which are now being tested in house.
After the new year, and once we get the green light from QA , we’ll be putting the updates on (preview) for all to try out and give feedback. When we do, I’ll give as full a layout as I can on what changes were made. For now I can tell you that we’ve made huge changes in the rewards tables, both in drop rates and in adding in lots of new gear and items.

“WHAT? – More gear?! Cool but my bags are already brimming! “

Working on the changes, and listening to your feedback we also have added in a new tab. We call it Useful Items, what you have been calling “keyring” It’s a new tab in the inventory where you can keep all your keys. Keys that take up space; space you’ll need for loot!
We know (hopefully) you’ll have lots of questions about this; once we get ready to put this up on preview we’ll roll out more details and answer questions then.
Thanks and thanks again for your previous feedback and in helping us make Neverwinter be the game you want to play.

Regards,
Thomas “Mimic King” Foss

cattman5 · December 2016

Nice update. Thanks!

kreatyve · December 2016

Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?

tripsofthrymr · December 2016

Awesome update! I'm looking forward to checking out the changes (and the Useful Items tab!) on Preview next year.

Suggestion for a Zen Store or Tradebar item to further help with inventory: Token to upgrade existing bags to a larger capacity, priced in-line with current Zen/Slot.

lwedar · December 2016

great news! to follow up on what kreatyve, here are some other items:

1. Quest items (they drop alot in SKT and SoMI)
2. Event items (fish/special refinement items like simral, etc)
3. Specific campaign items (trowel, boat, pick, relics)

Consider adding tabs to it that you can unlock with AD and include fashion/refinement. We need more space and you all need more cashflow

micky1p00 · December 2016

kreatyve said:
Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?

Yup, and relic shovels, Black Ice Picks, I have the zen variant, so wont discard them and yet... the bag space...

silence1x · December 2016

Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the update @mimicking#6533

yahndarkwood · December 2016

Is there any way you could bring in a way of sorting all of your carry luggage at once , rather than separate bags. This is my most frustrating thing about the game . If we were to buy slots , rather than bags we could sort the whole thing at once. and a "sort by" tab. Otherwise , thanks for the hopefully good news.

kreatyve · December 2016

micky1p00 said:

kreatyve said:
Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?
Yup, and relic shovels, Black Ice Picks, I have the zen variant, so wont discard them and yet... the bag space...

I knew I was forgetting things! Also - the thrones! There are now 4 of them, and if you want to keep them with you, that's 4 bag slots.

urabask · December 2016

mimicking#6533 said:
For now I can tell you that we’ve made huge changes in the rewards tables, both in drop rates and in adding in lots of new gear and items.

“WHAT? – More gear?! Cool but my bags are already brimming! “

I was thinking more along the lines of," FINALLY! Companion gear so I don't have to blow 3 million AD on gear just to switch companions."

vikingmetal · December 2016

Hi

,

Yes, that's nice, but the problem is not only the keys. Sometimes the inventory is full of quest items, items needed 4 crafting or similar (like trowels, rods,...)... and if i stop to think my main problem is 200 different kind of refining stones, enchantments everywhere occupying more than the 50% of my inventory, not speaking of shards and all this kind of things. Sorry to say, bad problem 4 me (where do i keep all those stones/similar if i don't wanna use them at that certain moment?) as this of keys...

So i would ask u, those who can make this kind of things possible: would it be possible to add another extra tab where, at least, refinement stones, enchantments, shards were?

It's just an idea. Thx in advance

,

katamaster81899 · December 2016

This is good.

Let me rephrase that: This is a good start. Keys are ONE OF the MANY types of items that have been cluttering up our bags.

The other items that still require some sort of storage solution are...
- Fish
- Refining Stones/Regeants/Enchantments/Runestones, etc.

Personally, I place the emphasis on the RP, as fish is only a temporary problem when the bags fill up.
RP however.

Lets count how many types of RP there are, and multiple that by the number of bindings that can occur!
-Lesser Marks (3)
-Regular Marks (3)
- Greater Marks (3)
- Potencies (5)
- Coal/Pres Wards (2)
- Power Stones (4)
- Stability Stones (4)
- Union Stones (4)
- Reso Stones (4)
- Dark Enchantments (12)
- Radiant Enchantments (12)
- Azure Enchantments (12)
- Silvery Enchantments (12)
- Brutal Enchantments (12)
- Vicious Enchantments (12)
- Savage Enchantments (12)
- Cruel Enchantments (12)
- Black Ice Enchantments (12)
- Quartermaster Enchantments (12)
- Draconic Enchantments (12)
- Gigantic Enchantments (12)
- Profane Runestones (12)
- Eldritch Runestones (12)
- Empowered Runestones (12)
- Training Runestones (12)
- Arcane Runestones (12)
- Bonding Runestone (5)
- All of the weapon and armor enchantments and shards that I am not wasting my time to list (Too many to count)

All of these come in multiple types of binding status (BoC, BoA, BoE). Some of them, like preservation and coalescent ward, have multiple binding types of each (Multiple types of BoA that cannot be stacked).

What's the solution to the RP problem?

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kreatyve · December 2016

I would be willing to pay Zen for a "Refinement Bag" that has 50+ slots.

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micky1p00 · December 2016

kreatyve said:
I would be willing to pay Zen for a "Refinement Bag" that has 50+ slots.

On this I disagree, the RP mess grew into a design flaw. Either that bag should be made and be free or the concept reworked. It's one thing to get hoarders to pay for bags (I'm one) and another to 'force' players to get bags because of the basic mechanic overwhelms them. Also in part this is caused by the double RP events, the original premise of the refine change (if you remember it was different long ago, with using the same enchants) that people will be able just to upgrade on the go and save inventory room instead of holding 4 ecnhats of the same type before upgrading. Now we have more RP types than enchantments at that time, and worse, this is impossible now, people will always try to save and wait for the double RP, and rightfully so.

lordseth1985 · December 2016

Well, it's a nice start. Let's see the real changes when it goes to preview.

mimicking · December 2016

kreatyve said:
Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?

Now now, I said no questions- far too close to Christmas to be asking such questions

Mimicvs Rex

melindaoz · December 2016

I'd pay AD/Zen for a fashion tab. One of my characters is doing all the mastercrafting. that's ultimately 16 fashion pieces I worked damn hard for, and can't get back if I throw them out. My poor bank.

mightyeriksson · December 2016

urabask said:

mimicking#6533 said:
For now I can tell you that we’ve made huge changes in the rewards tables, both in drop rates and in adding in lots of new gear and items.

“WHAT? – More gear?! Cool but my bags are already brimming! “

I was thinking more along the lines of," FINALLY! Companion gear so I don't have to blow 3 million AD on gear just to switch companions."

I'm slowly losing hope on that one, it simply can't be that difficult to find a way to throw it into the game

cliffordtx · December 2016

Key ring is a start. I think simplifying binding would help quite a bit. I'd like to see just 2 levels of binding, BoA and unbound. Having 3 of each refinement item takes up a lot of space, as well as the other bound items. BoA would be nice for people that want to try new builds and trade them their main's unused equipment. BoA would still keep items off the Auction House if you need to. That's my two coppers.

indylol · December 2016

@tripsofthrymr

Wouldn't it make more sense just to expand bag space by 4 bags to a total of 10 bags?

beckylunatic · December 2016

kreatyve said:
Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?

Okay, okay, I know the King said no questions, but I'd also like to *request* or hope-like-anything that "useful items" includes not just our tools but also all quest items, of which I tend to have many.

Looking forward to seeing how it turns out in practice. Thank you for the update. We've been anxiously awaiting word on the future direction of the game, and this definitely hits on some of the things we've been wishing for.

lazaroth666 · December 2016

@mimicking#6533

Thank you for the update. However, we haven't received a real christmas gift yet. What if you give us a riddle or something similar that will hint us a bit about the new module or an incoming feature? Just to increase the hype.

kreatyve · December 2016

mimicking#6533 said:

kreatyve said:
Could we possibly put other things besides keys in that "Useful Items" tab? Things like fishing poles (which most people have 2 of), our boat for SoMI, maybe a few other items that everyone has to carry on them at all times?
Now now, I said no questions- far too close to Christmas to be asking such questions
Mimicvs Rex

Answers make great Christmas presents though! I do hope you (and the rest of the devs) have a great holiday!

hanniballa · December 2016

IS the loot still going to be garbage? Been playing since Xbox launch, I've never got an artifact drop, and I had to drop millions to get an epic mount. How about some details about the loot please?

hustin1 · December 2016

Forward progress, as the NFL would say

A simple thing that would be really nice would be if these Winter Festival scarves would stack. I mean, I can stack them in my dresser drawer, so what's the big deal?

voidgift · December 2016

The issue with bag space is not even touched if not looking at all the different refining items. Secondly it is fashion items. How many are running around with a bunch of keys anyways? It is way to many different types of them, yes. But, the problem with all the different kind of keys is not that they are taking up bag space.

If I didn't have ZEN keys and VIP keys, I probably wouldn't do dungeons at all. The keys are hidden behind campaign daylies that I have done over and over to grind boons, then over and over to grind Stronghold, then over and over to grind boons agaim for alts. The rewards from the dungeons are going to have to be pretty good if you gonna make me do it again for the keys before each dungeon that I do.

Still, thumbs up for listening and showing us you care and wanting to improve quality of life for us beaten poor adventurers. ^^

tripsofthrymr · December 2016

indylol said:
@tripsofthrymr
Wouldn't it make more sense just to expand bag space by 4 bags to a total of 10 bags?

In a sense that's six of one, half a dozen of the other. However, I like the idea of being able to upgrade the free, relatively small bags for a (reasonable) fraction of what an equivalent full-size bag would cost.

matthiasthehun76 · December 2016

I would love to see a special tab for our PVP gear and the many armor sets we have to carry around currently.

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