How are people making such cheap transcendent enchants?

metikulous · November 2016

So, let's take Transcendent Feytouched for example. On the PS4 it's selling for roughly ~6million - 7million.

128 shards
63 coalescent wards
? refinement points
? marks of stuff

Assuming we already have the shards and disregarded the refinement points and marks needed that's still 63 coalescent wards.

Normal Zen Price: 63 x 1000 = 63,000Z
Coupon: 63 x 850 = 53,550
Black Friday: 63 x 600 = 37,800

Astral diamond exchange seems to be fluctuating between 330 - 370 with the recent sale but let's assume 330 exchange rate.

Normal: 63,000 x 330 = 20,790,000ad
Coupon: 53,550 x 330 = 17,671,500ad
Black Friday: 37,800 x 330 = 12,474,000ad

Now, I'm aware that you can get coalescent wards from invoking but as someone with 8 alts that has been invoking since neverwinter launched on PS4 I've got 1, maybe 2, wards this way. Nowhere near enough to drive the price low enough to sell at half price. Only other thing I can think of is using preservation wards and getting supremely lucky. Any ideas or did I fudge something up with my napkin math?

oldbaldyone · December 2016

It takes 32 shards, and 15 coal wards to make a trans from shards (plus Rp and marks of course). No clue how you got the numbers you did.

micky1p00 · December 2016

Perfect doesn't need another perfect to upgrade to pure.
So is pure, you don't need two, you only need some marks and a ward.
You probably made the mistake there.

dfnce · December 2016

Another thing is, at least on PC market, is availability of lesser or normal versions enchantments with cost lesser than Coalescent Ward.

metikulous · December 2016

micky1p00 said:
Perfect doesn't need another perfect to upgrade to pure.
So is pure, you don't need two, you only need some marks and a ward.
You probably made the mistake there.

oldbaldyone said:
It takes 32 shards, and 15 coal wards to make a trans from shards (plus Rp and marks of course). No clue how you got the numbers you did.

I was looking at the wrong thing on the wiki <.<. Whoops. Thanks guys.

So 15 to get to perfect and then just 2 more for pure and transcendent. I have a normal feytouched and the 8 coal wards thanks to Black Friday. If I can buy 6 lesser versions I guess I'll be set.

umarachnea · December 2016

oldbaldyone said:
It takes 32 shards, and 15 coal wards to make a trans from shards (plus Rp and marks of course). No clue how you got the numbers you did.

To add to this:

It's the same with all enchantments where from Rank 10 to 12 you won't need another enchantment.

1 rank 12 <- 1 rank 11 <- 1 Rank 10 <- 2 Rank 9 <- 4 Rank 8 <- 8 Rank 7 <- 32 shards (4 shards make 1 rk 7)

Technically you will need 16 Coalescent wards from Shard to Trans (8 to make rank 7, etc...)

Edit: All "non-shard" enchantments (Azure, Radiant etc...) will require 2 enchantments to rank up until 10.

umarachnea · December 2016

One thing we should not forget. They are not necessarily making them cheap.

I still see people undercutting items by a million or more just to sell.... even if they get extremely lucky with preservation wards, they are discounting the fact that under normal circumstances, they do need about the same ward investment. Not saying the price should go up.

Just that these might not be the best return on investment to take from shard to trans. You might find it cheaper to buy a perfect and use wards on it in order to sell at competitive prices.

Say the Perfect Feytouched sells for 3-4 million AD (haven't checked), and AD exchange is at 350, you can buy 1, then 2 Coalescent Wards for 700K, and make a nice profit.

Rank 12 Sell Price - (Rank 10 cost + 2 Coalescent Wards (2000 Zen)) = Profit (Don't forget to factor in the 10% AH fee)

How are people making such cheap transcendent enchants?

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