Hunter Ranger is OP | Horrible balance

wikingwingss · September 2016

A slope of classes absolute.
PVP is broken again.

jackanuckox3 · September 2016

Juhu, another Hr nerf thread.

fuxion · September 2016

HR is broken - its a fact and spoiling the fun again ...whats the point of deflect and defense if its useless against Hrs cause of piercing damage feats ?? its really dumb tbh.

No defense against Hrs spamming plant growth - no skill required

its stupid really.

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fuxion · September 2016

Agreed - They have new Dev so maybe there is hope ...

CW cant kill anything/any other class with same gear score in PVP ... thts why most BIS Control wizards are oppressors (forced to be)

its just sad tht classes stay in thi state so long ..people invest so much time money effort and then their class ends up so weak compared to other classes in pvp ...real sad

osterdrache · September 2016

CWs are not forced to go into that path. They go into it, because nobody in a serious pmvspm can kill anything anymore. Lion anyone???

CWs are the strongest class in 5vs5 games, because its all about capping and holding points, and their ridiciolous 3 seconds perma repel.

Then you have TRs that can perma courage break you. Literally. Plus perma smoke bomb.

DCs put an empowered AS down, and HR is doing almost no dmg, even with piercing feat.

GFs still do insane dmg while being very tanky, even against HRs piercing.

OPs? Never dies 1vs1.

SW? Perma shadowwalk and best mobility. Also almost never dies 1vs1.

Truth is: that whining about HRs just comes from less geared or expirienced players who got wrecked and who were used to previous mods, when HR was just a victim class.

All the GFs and GWFs and so on complaining about piercing dmg are hypocrits. Because if you want to remove piercing dmg, you should also remove immunities and over the top resistances like astral shield, GF shield, GWF immunities, ITC, OPs in general, courage breaker .....

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fuxion · September 2016

etelgrin said:
under these circumstances it would be nice if mark of hr ward would mitigate 10% incoming damage instead of increasing DR by 10% which does nothing against piercing blades that is 95% of HR dps.

yeah exactly !! good comment / suggestion

xpaeonx · September 2016

PVP has never been balanced in any MMORPG just deal with the META and adjust, that's what the good pvpers do.

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frenzal · September 2016

I'm not buying it. As an HR, every HR I've met plays horribly and is the only class I can kill. Everyone else one shots me. I think the only overpowered people are people that have gross amounts of time and resources to invest.

feanor70118 · September 2016

Hrs didn't want mod 4 piercing back. We got it because Cryptic didn't give nearly enough resources to the problem of balancing a class that it had been either ignoring or nerfing for two solid years. Amenar did his best but since we were sick to death of being toothless in pvp the only thing they could do in the time available before the mod 10 launch was to flip a switch and give us back mod 4 piercing. Apart from combat HRs the class is still toothless in pvp. And we're still stuck with animations that take too long, only two or three sources of burst damage that are actually practical in pvp, no effective control abilities, buggy abilities and, apparently, a perma-fail on initiative against some other classes. Long story short, they gave us an over-buff that we didn't ask for, but if we're going to pvp other than for the love of dying in a futile struggle, it's what we have to use.

In any event, anyone complaining about plaint growth has obviously never tried simply walking out of it - since like all HR control abilities it has no control effect.

xcellf · September 2016

Learn and adapt to the play-style of combat Hrs.
All of them (including me) they will try to reach close so that they can use Boar charge(most of us) and then Plant-Growth.
Be ready to dodge.Just that.
No nerfs, no buffs, no cry for op classes.Get used to it and i'm saying it again ADAPT.
Just my 2 astral diamonds

turzan · September 2016

Personlay i havn't any problem with hr's piercing dmg, tbh doing a 1 vs 1 is big fun for me - fair challenge and now is more about tactic and knowledge of enemy class - perma rootz was broken - combat hr isn't. At least only one skill (plant-growth after boar charge) is dangerous.. Full dps hr is still pretty squishy - killiable.. I was so annoyed when tasted new hr style on ptr before it came to life but now i agree with xcelf:

xcellf said:
No nerfs, no buffs, no cry for op classes. Get used to it and i'm saying it again ADAPT.

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turzan · September 2016

osterdrache said:
CWs are not forced to go into that path. They go into it, because nobody in a serious pmvspm can kill anything anymore. Lion anyone???

CWs are the strongest class in 5vs5 games, because its all about capping and holding points, and their ridiciolous 3 seconds perma repel.

Then you have TRs that can perma courage break you. Literally. Plus perma smoke bomb.

DCs put an empowered AS down, and HR is doing almost no dmg, even with piercing feat.

GFs still do insane dmg while being very tanky, even against HRs piercing.

OPs? Never dies 1vs1.

SW? Perma shadowwalk and best mobility. Also almost never dies 1vs1.

Truth is: that whining about HRs just comes from less geared or expirienced players who got wrecked and who were used to previous mods, when HR was just a victim class.

All the GFs and GWFs and so on complaining about piercing dmg are hypocrits. Because if you want to remove piercing dmg, you should also remove immunities and over the top resistances like astral shield, GF shield, GWF immunities, ITC, OPs in general, courage breaker .....

Ohhh man, once again no problems for me with HR (tbh any gf cmplaining about hr is just weak)

about the rest of post:

op never dies 1 vs 1 and what? this is most sad class in pvp - yeah immortal but no mobility, no dps, no prone, no cc (except Hussbro's new build - very nice) wanna play 1 vs 1 go IWD

SW unkilliable?? - maybe 1 or 2 are tanky as hell in this game rest are squishy

Tr perma CB/SB - yeah its horrible but at least cant kill u easy

CW are the strongest class in 5vs5 match - yussss - gettin good perma cc cw is a way to win the match - but they dont deal any.. any dmg they are kinda zdps class. Ridiculous - hell no.. Imo that how should look inclass balance: U go full cc/tankines and cant do any damage or u gonna full dps and u are real cannonglass.

Gf alrady nerfed and ppl still complain (everybody laughin before nerf and we said we find way to be on top again) but a agree gf is very dangerous but easy to kill when u do it correct (with team mate)

Gwf is only one class which can really complain about hr..

Overall: there is to much healing and selfhealing in this game: to much ls, heal form artifact, heal from weapons set, pant and shirt set, etc this should be a bit nerfed and maybe pvp will look a bit difference.

bittynation · September 2016

osterdrache said:
CWs are not forced to go into that path. They go into it, because nobody in a serious pmvspm can kill anything anymore. Lion anyone???

CWs are the strongest class in 5vs5 games, because its all about capping and holding points, and their ridiciolous 3 seconds perma repel.

Then you have TRs that can perma courage break you. Literally. Plus perma smoke bomb.

DCs put an empowered AS down, and HR is doing almost no dmg, even with piercing feat.

GFs still do insane dmg while being very tanky, even against HRs piercing.

OPs? Never dies 1vs1.

SW? Perma shadowwalk and best mobility. Also almost never dies 1vs1.

Truth is: that whining about HRs just comes from less geared or expirienced players who got wrecked and who were used to previous mods, when HR was just a victim class.

All the GFs and GWFs and so on complaining about piercing dmg are hypocrits. Because if you want to remove piercing dmg, you should also remove immunities and over the top resistances like astral shield, GF shield, GWF immunities, ITC, OPs in general, courage breaker .....

+1

osterdrache · September 2016

Who cares about damage? Your not going into pvp dom to kill someone, but to cap nodes and win.

And CWs are the best class for that. Throw a DC and a TR in and you have the current FotM comp.

Most players in said pm comps have 0 kills/ 0 deaths. And can still win 1000:100.
That tells you what wins matches, and its defenitly not damage.

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jhpnw · September 2016

tHIS IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER NERF THREAD AND SHOULD BE CLOSED

kreatyve · September 2016

Closed as this is a nerf thread. If you wish to make a balance request thread, please make sure you have enough information to show that it is not a nerf request. Thanks.

Hunter Ranger is OP | Horrible balance

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