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syxoooo
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 18 Arc User
Hey Peeps,
I am currently not sure wich set i should change into
I do not want the valindra set as it is worthless at the moment, Black ice seems worthless to if i read the forums.
What i do wonder if it is worth it to dump my Lostmauth Set, and get me an Orcus set ? (Purely for Damage)
As a CW, what will you do with your lostmauth set ?
I am currently not sure wich set i should change into
I do not want the valindra set as it is worthless at the moment, Black ice seems worthless to if i read the forums.
What i do wonder if it is worth it to dump my Lostmauth Set, and get me an Orcus set ? (Purely for Damage)
As a CW, what will you do with your lostmauth set ?
Leader of Pure Evil, Sword Guild in the Primacy Alliance.
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
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And better than the 2% dex i get from LM.
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
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And im a Thauma Pure Dps so this set is best for me.
Believe it or not whatever u like.
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
You asked what would be wise to do, you received an answer but it seems like you've made up your mind before even creating the topic. Why are you here?
I do have experience, but i wanted to know what you guys think of it.
Funny thing is my ACT shows that my Orcus Set is good.
And again as i said in an earlier topic, i dont like to walk in a line like everyone else behind the puppet.
Same as that bonding thing u guys adore, strip you from it and lets see what your worth.
Experience > Math
While you guys where doing your "math" i was bussy PLAYING the game!
Might wanna redo your "math".
But ye who am i to tell ya....
Greetings,
Syxo
Owner of Pure Evil
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
"The +2 STR gives me another 2% Stamina Regen increase"
That almost made me angry.
Seriously, you can get a boon that increases this by 10% (and more later on, I think there're more boons like that one).
Getting a Belt that gives you Primary and Secondary skill in terms of DPS is a must for a CW who primes the Thaum build.
I don't see Orcus set being used properly on anything besides super-HP rich bosses and you wearing some very, very glass-canony set of the old days, such as High Vizier.
Even in the terms of Wizard NUKE builds, that one is probably one of the riskiest build options ever made.
I mean, ok, ok, I get it, you want hp-differential of the set. But then again you'd be better of with a WIS build constantly spamming Disintegrate and RoE since the boss' HP won't stay on the top at all times and prior to that GWF/SW/TR have a much bigger single-target DPS than a CW, for it to REALLY matter that you take the Orcus set.
Not only that, but you'd actually make a CW build that yet still depends upon the actual set bonus, which is a very poor combination and makes it a trap and a repeated mistake of taking the set "to be strong" yet again with the Lostmauth's venegance scenario.
At this point the CW community wants to see changes on the class in terms of CC options, in terms of DPS options and in terms of being more useful to the entire team by not having to get 2 or 3 wizards to do a job of one.
So, wizards shouldn't be "viable" simply because of the set bonuses, but because of the actual skill, feats and powers used.
For instance the synergy with the OP class is terrible. OPs now after the nerf will totally scatter the mobs around in order to get AP-gainand that's reasonable, yet what should a CW do? Take the entangling force on Tab and do practically nothing much?
There are no many arcane-based boosts to the spells. Only one or two. So that makes Entangling force not viable.
Valindra/2 piece elol:
Stats:
Power: 2692
Crit: 1060
Armour Penetration: 1530
Recovery: 530
Intelligence: 2
Charisma: 2
Orcus Set:
Stats:
Power: 2692
Critical Strike: 1060
Deflection: 1060
Movement: 1000
Strength: 2
Constitution: 2
So, just off of the stats, you lose the following offensive stats: (discounting recovery)
Armour Penetration: 1530
Intelligence: 2
Charisma: 2
For a total damage loss of:
15% resistance ignored = ~3% damage boost from power ~ 4% crit chance (assuming you fixed your arp issue by changing stats elsewhere because having an arp deficiency is stupid.)
2% damage (from int, not counting learned spellcaster)
2% crit chance (from cha)
2% CA damage (from cha)
For a total constant dps loss of:
10% constant dps loss
How does the orcus set work?
|(Your HP% - Their HP%)|/5
Which means that in an ideal world assuming perfect circumstances, its a 15% dps gain (assuming you at low HP at the start of combat and at high HP at the end), which should make it equal or better than the above right? Well, no. Why? Because there are a few things you have to take into consideration:
1) You will NEVER get the 20% damage bonus, as you cannot damage an enemy at 0 HP.
2) Outside of dungeons, you will 1 shot monsters at full life, meaning no dps boost at all.
3) Inside of dungeons, you will 1 shot monsters from half life, meaning that the last point you can realistically count is 50% up vs your 100%
4) CW is a melee caster, which means you will take damage, which means your HP will also jump around, which means the bonus will jump around.
All in all, the above factors make the Orcus set bonus average to a 6-7% dps bonus, which is 3-4% less than the above listed stat distribution, which makes it worse for dps.
Of coarse, all the above is just theory, have I actually tested it? Yes and I find it to be a dps loss.
Now, you have likely already made up your mind and aren't here to be convinced otherwise so much as to argue with people. So an easier solution is this: My CW is specced purely for dps, meet me in game and lets see how our CWs compare.
Only the dead have seen the end of war. - Plato
@syxoooo not coming back to the forums and bragging about the outcome explains it. Despite being far better geared, he only did about 3/4 of what @thefabricant was doing.
If someone plays very fast and aggressively (and can walk the razor's edge between dying and DPSing), they'll generally end up doing a lot more damage than someone who otherwise has a great build, but plays more cautiously.
It's one thing that's kept me into Neverwinter...the skill of the player factors tremendously into the ultimate outcome.