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fatninja144477 · December 2015

Why is it that in the epic dungeons and skirmishes the bosses can one shot my tank. Through Templars Wrath's over health and general damage mitigation?

armadeonx · January 2016

How much defence do you have? I've stood face to face against several dungeon end-bosses without a DC or mitigation from other players and not lost any health (yes that's without bubble). The only boss that's dropped me is the one in Cragmire's but that wasn't a 1-shot.

I have 10k defence, 30 constitution and keep aura of protection active. I'm just under 2.5k IL. I also use shielding strike as my main at-will.

fatninja144477 · January 2016

That is also why it is weird one moment I am face to face with the boss not taking any damage and then just down. Not sure what my defense is because i am at work now.

armadeonx · January 2016

Either you got hit with a major crit or you were using binding oath - your team takes some major hits while it's up, when it expires you take 20% of all damage received during that time - in a single spike. It's only truly safe if there are 2 pallys running it.

It has dropped me to half health before. If you're going to use it with just one pally then your defence needs to be maxed at 80% when you include your skills. If you're not using it already try shielding strike for extra defence and maybe use the combined auras of protection and truth.

respectpays · January 2016

theres a few personal feats u can invest into and try switching out rads for azures if u stil struggle I have 17k def with rank 8's and I don't struggle without a haste or 2nd pally

mahburg · January 2016

armadeonx said:
Either you got hit with a major crit or you were using binding oath - your team takes some major hits while it's up, when it expires you take 20% of all damage received during that time - in a single spike. It's only truly safe if there are 2 pallys running it.

It has dropped me to half health before. If you're going to use it with just one pally then your defence needs to be maxed at 80% when you include your skills. If you're not using it already try shielding strike for extra defence and maybe use the combined auras of protection and truth.

^This Binding oath can and will kill you in certain Dungeons if you aren't paying attention

respectpays · January 2016

yep binding oath is probly thee worst encounter u can use lol

wdj40 · January 2016

fatninja144477 said:
Why is it that in the epic dungeons and skirmishes the bosses can one shot my tank. Through Templars Wrath's over health and general damage mitigation?

I do not think being completely invincible should be the way to go anyway, I like that bosses and stuff can Crit and do massive damage against a player... deaths should be a part of the game every now and then for every class (its why I do not like the Bubble really).

It also makes you think about which classes to run with in a group, for instance a HR with Fox`s Cunning in the rotations can help you completely dodge one of those attacks and carry on Tanking etc.

zman81420 · January 2016

^ Yup, it is almost as if A Paladin dies and the whole world ends. You are going to die, a lot until you are geared up, stack recovery, create your build like all the other drones, synchronize your rotations you will DIE. Talk to the other Paladin's in the forums, this question should technically be in there anyways.
http://arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/categories/the-citadel
http://arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/categories/oathbound-paladin-class-discussion

armadeonx · January 2016

I've run a few etos and shores with good GF's and it's just like the old mod 5 days of staying on your toes, dodging red zones etc - it is much more fun. Long term players can adapt quickly but the newer ones are always "WHERE'S THE BUBBLE!!!!

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lol

rhadamathys · January 2016

I'm a permabubble without the need for a cleric...my thoughts...

Binding oath rocks...depending on party makeup...if I have haste I run it, bane, and Templars...if I don't have haste and I only have 1 GWF, I run smite, Templars and oath...if I have 2or more GWFs I swap oath for avengers.

Couple things to note...most dps players get real lazy as they are used to bubble plus haste...as far as they are concerned, they are invincible and assume you are too. I need to remind them about not standing in red zones...as I don't have healing...they get it...furthermore, they are used to running through a bunch of mobs, they need to adjust tactics and split up some fights...I split the phase spiders and brood mate fight into 2 depending on group...with a haste, most just do it all as one fight...

GWFs are the worst due to their , proximity to mobs ...means they take way more damage...first boss in etos does a sweep attack for massive damage. I won't run etos with 4 GWFs for that reason. Likewise with final in ecc...t1 I have no issues with 4 GWFs.

You really need to ensure you maximize Templars...don't start a fight while it's recharging , wait. Then cast it right after you proc the bubble...be sure to be near lots of mobs so you max the effect...keep on top of it.

If I feel health is an issue in a fight, I pop bubble, Templar, use my Sigil of devotion, then I use left thumb stick to help reduce dmg and heal...I count to 15 then pop bubble again...most major dmg is dealt within first 20-30 seconds of a fight...survive that and things get much easier...

Also, what is your recovery at? You need it high so Templars recharges fast...recovery is your most important stat...

Hope this helps....

wdj40 · January 2016

I just think Pallys should be able to Tank and reduce the Groups in-coming damage with tactics etc etc... the perma/semi-perma invincibility thing I just think is not needed and makes dungeons runs incredibly boring

johndoe · February 2016

armadeonx said:
I've run a few etos and shores with good GF's and it's just like the old mod 5 days of staying on your toes, dodging red zones etc - it is much more fun. Long term players can adapt quickly but the newer ones are always "WHERE'S THE BUBBLE!!!! "

lol

Thats' the only I way I play. I hate the way the pally bubble turns everything into a borefest. Mod 5 style takes some skill and team work.

fluffy6977 · February 2016

Going to ask the stupid question, did you have your zone of safety up?

armadeonx · February 2016

That only applies to healadins (oath of devotion) which make up 1% of Paladins so probably doesn't apply.

@fatninja144477 your defence needs to be above 10k and health above 120k. Even then you can insta-die if using Binding Oath or temp health drops to a low level and you're caught with no bubble.

A big mistake I often see Pallys make is not getting their temp health before going into a mob. The amount of times I see them run in, hit bubble then hit Templars Wrath. By which time they've lost a load of health & sometimes die.

iccyasd · February 2016

Me too had been 1 shot at elol (twin scorpion & drag), not sure why but im at 8000-9000 def with ITF & KV. Pretty sure no 1 other than me got hit, i was at full life (110K) when the bosses gets to 50% HP i get random 1 shot for some reason with shield still up & stamina at 80% above that is.

What i really hate is the group boots you when you get 1 shot.

ltsmithneko · February 2016

Im at 12-15k def (Depending on artifact weapon set) I still don't get one-shot by anything, maybe a multitude of people were hit at once. :P Idk though I normally don't like running anything with paladins since well... they're not needed at all. Personal opinion...

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