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Why PvP is the worst for low Item level 70's.

veywiil#8685 veywiil Member Posts: 208 Arc User
edited January 2016 in PvP Discussion
I just had the worst experience with a very well known PvP'er who called me out for being 2k IL. Like excuse me that I'm playing an OP specced for PvE in PvP. How dare I try gain AD through PvP. How dare I not care about winning. How dare it's my fault for causing our team to lose by not having snail mount and other AP means. How dare I not use bubble the second it's up, without strategy. How dare I even be teamed with this man. I mean honestly the arrogance and attitude of PvP gets worse by the day. It's almost the the point of having to pre emptively ignore all of my team, because the only thing I hear is how bad I suck. So what? I'm 2k IL OP. What are you expecting from me, I don't even have any level 6 runes in my gear. I'm sorry, but this kind of PvP experience is what drives people away.

AFAIK, PvP'ing for AD is a fine reason for doing it, and thats what I do. I'll use my ring of ambush to get my 600 points, I'm happy and done at that point, then if we want to try to win let's go for it. But having well known people harass me even after the match is over is wrong. As much as it would please me to call him out by name, I will show some respect and deference to the forum rules. Perhaps I'm in the wrong here, but in 2k IL level 70 PvP, I'd think my team would at least understand that hey, I still need outside AP gain or at least relentless avenger on my bar to be able to have bubble. Especially with AP drain involved... Just my thoughts this morning on PvP.

Edit: before I see any posts, Thought I'd clarify how the battle went down. I went to home point for the 300 points, got home, but upon leaving had to BO, and shift through some rather intense Stunning and dazing from a HR, there was a TR who gave me a nice tap on the way by, but he went for the point. I headed for middle having to deal with the annoying HR the whole way, Upon reaching mid I had maybe 10% AP. I attempted to particpate in combat there and died with about 90% AP, after about 30 or so seconds of combat. I was then called out for not bubbling, I responded with "I have no AP gain." After that I was pretty much capping points where I could, but my team had given up after only 1 team fight where I was around and called GG, forcing me to hold my daily for the rest of the match (Where was i gonna use it at that point)? As a matter of fact the guy on my team calling me a scrub and a ring HAMSTER attempted to have the enemy team focus me. Quite rude.
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    PVPing for AD is actually a terrible return for your time involved, its much less efficient then running pve.

    On one toon for PVE per week and expected that you have at least VIP rank 1.

    Do the following.

    Run the 4 weeklies, that is 18k in AD.
    Run 2 t1 dds = 6,600 in AD per day x 7 days = 46,200 weekly ad.
    Run 2 KR skirms = 5.8k in AD per day x 7 = 40,600 weekly Ad.
    BARE minimum amount of salvage AD = 13200 a day x 7 =92,400 AD

    Total amount of weekly AD earned at a MINIMUM = 197,200
    Total amount of max refine AD = 252,000
    Total difference = 54800.00
    Some of this difference will always be higher salvage return (not just rings) arms, helmet, chest and multiple salvage drops.. the more rng in your favor the better to reduce the difference.

    By the time you finished one match, you could easily do 2-3 of these activities.

    Running pvp, is by far the worst sort of time to earn AD.

    BTW.. casual PVP is ruined due to them allowing massive power difference in the same match.. nothing more.. nothing less.






  • nuudlznuudlz Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 285 Arc User

    Like excuse me that I'm playing an OP specced for PvE in PvP.

    How dare I not care about winning.

    And then calling other people arrogant and ignorant - hm, I don't know about that attitude.

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited January 2016

    I just had the worst experience with a very well known PvP'er who called me out for being 2k IL. Like excuse me that I'm playing an OP specced for PvE in PvP. How dare I try gain AD through PvP. How dare I not care about winning. How dare it's my fault for causing our team to lose by not having snail mount and other AP means. How dare I not use bubble the second it's up, without strategy. How dare I even be teamed with this man. I mean honestly the arrogance and attitude of PvP gets worse by the day. It's almost the the point of having to pre emptively ignore all of my team, because the only thing I hear is how bad I suck. So what? I'm 2k IL OP. What are you expecting from me, I don't even have any level 6 runes in my gear. I'm sorry, but this kind of PvP experience is what drives people away.

    AFAIK, PvP'ing for AD is a fine reason for doing it, and thats what I do. I'll use my ring of ambush to get my 600 points, I'm happy and done at that point, then if we want to try to win let's go for it. But having well known people harass me even after the match is over is wrong. As much as it would please me to call him out by name, I will show some respect and deference to the forum rules. Perhaps I'm in the wrong here, but in 2k IL level 70 PvP, I'd think my team would at least understand that hey, I still need outside AP gain or at least relentless avenger on my bar to be able to have bubble. Especially with AP drain involved... Just my thoughts this morning on PvP.

    Edit: before I see any posts, Thought I'd clarify how the battle went down. I went to home point for the 300 points, got home, but upon leaving had to BO, and shift through some rather intense Stunning and dazing from a HR, there was a TR who gave me a nice tap on the way by, but he went for the point. I headed for middle having to deal with the annoying HR the whole way, Upon reaching mid I had maybe 10% AP. I attempted to particpate in combat there and died with about 90% AP, after about 30 or so seconds of combat. I was then called out for not bubbling, I responded with "I have no AP gain." After that I was pretty much capping points where I could, but my team had given up after only 1 team fight where I was around and called GG, forcing me to hold my daily for the rest of the match (Where was i gonna use it at that point)? As a matter of fact the guy on my team calling me a scrub and a ring HAMSTER attempted to have the enemy team focus me. Quite rude.

    do one HE in WoD and get one blue ring, done, 3k AD.
    one elol or VT having a key on top is up to 4x5,5k AD (VIP) max.+extradrops-->up to 28k AD one run (double drop from chest), minimum 2x3k
    go PVP get yelled at and get nothing in case you lose.
    a 2k OP just gets eaten taking part in the worst experience you can do as undergeared class atm in NWO
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  • solbergxsolbergx Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    I have a renegade cw 2.52K IL, and i find it very annoying that most of the fights are vs 3.5k with all Transcendent items, so i created a new player DC righteous and im playing domination at lvl 60 and its real fun to play.
    Im going to keep rifening my CW items till i get to IL 3k so i can play domination for real
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