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My Ranger is sooo depressed.

kiwakinskiwakins Member Posts: 10 Arc User
Truly how low can this class be?
1. My main issue is getting one shotted, all the time in epics. ( even with Fox's Cunning )
2. Dps is lacking.
3. Mechanics is, SPAM SPAM between range and combat. (during large fights its unplayable)

conclusion: Roll a Tank class to just stay alive to enjoy the game.

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  • linknigrilinknigri Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    The class indeed sucks right now. Used to be fun... I finaly gave up on it, maybe someday if they fix the class i'll play it again, I advise you to do the same, its pointless to waste time or money on the HR right now.
  • feanor70118feanor70118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    1) Get yourself some lifesteal. All your defensive enchants should be darks. If you have <10% LS, respec your feats and take the extra 5% LS in melee from the combat tree until you have more.
    2) Don't Q for anything epic unless you have about 750 IL above the minimum. Gear gates have always been too low.
    3) Get yourself VIP status and buy a shadow demon with trade bars at the first opportunity. It crits at about 100-110k reliably. Outfit it with azure offensive enchants and, of course, loyal avenger gear and a girdle of the striker.
    4) All your offensive enchants should be azures. Brutal if you can afford/make R11s or 12s (and you pvp a lot, where critical hit resistance is a thing), but really we do the most DPS when our crit is about equal to our power. Since gear gives you way more power than crit, use azures.
    5) It's been a long time since I ran Fox. You avoid being one-shotted by being a trapper, controlling/dazing everything and having a ton of lifesteal (and dodging to avoid control immune targets). After having to redo all my enchants since mod 6, I'm sitting at over 20% LS and basically never die in PVE except due to lag. I change my rotation around a bit, but usually in pve I run hinder/constrict/cordon (using cordon as little as possible due to the absurd charge refill time). In group pve, I substitute longstrider's for cordon since it seems - though I don't run ACT to back this up - that careful attack +gushing wound on bosses and elites helps the whole team's DPS at some slight expense to your own.
    6) At the expense of some DPS, you can run hinder/constrict/marauder's or constrict/longstrider's/marauder's to keep zooming in and out of danger. I tend to use the former in pvp, depending on the makup of the team I'm facing. Obviously it's no good against the four classes that are basically control immune.
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    After some testing on hrs recently, thier dps is actually alot higher then you realize, a proper (around 3kish) hr will do a ton.. and its not AT all dependent on lostmouth like the cw is. (difference between 25% increase of damage and 6% increase or so)

    In fact side by side comparisons with removal of losty the two dps/cc lines of hr trapper and cw thaum or renegade, with removal of losty, you will blow them away, cw is only on par with hr trapper at that I level with losty set.

    If cw moves into oppressor and removal of losty happens you are 25-30% up! In fact cw damage is quite low in comparison.

    The only people you are not out parsing is some SW builds and most destroyer GWFs.

    I have no ideal why people are so low on this class, unless you move outside of trapper. thats a different story.

    But thats like a instigator gwf complaining or any other myriad variation of sub par lines.

    Every class has a optimal line, you might not like this current HR one, but its there and it works quite well. The hybrid cc dpser is one of the most powerful classes in game in fact.

  • blazious11blazious11 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 331 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    I also don't really have a problem with trapper dps. I do a lot of damage, escpesially for Aoe. My single target is a bit lower (since I'm stormwarden, because I like Cold Steel Hurricane too much, dragoneating daily <3 ), but nothing too bad. If Lostmauth indeed get some nerf/correction, Trapper will not feel it, because lostmauth makes only 5% damage.
    So I'm with Silverkelt on this one, HR are around CW damage now, only outdpsed by GWF and SW. CW only has the edge with with lostmauth and Oppressive force, because HR does not have this kind of instakill mobgroups daily.
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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    You see, the thing is the best CCer in the game should not also be the highest DD of the three HR trees. That's my issue with Trapper - that and the daze-spamming mechanism they forced us into for pvp.

    About CSH: I respecced into it to give it a test run and I find the animation is too long and the fact that you move a few yards forward when you use the power, making it difficult in melee. Damage is good though.
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  • blazious11blazious11 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 331 Arc User
    Agreed. I found trapper is one of the better placed paths. It has good control, good dps, little worse on single target.
    The problem does not lie with trapper, but with the other two paths.
    Archery should be the dps path, and I think it should be near the GWF-SW dps. I would make it like SW fury, very high single target dps, in the expense of CC and party buffs. At-wills should deal a lot more damage, and their animation should be faster (Rapid shot should be rapid).

    I use CSH after ranged rotation, if the mobs are in good position (after cordon for example). It works well on bigger bosses too, escpesially on dragons. You need to position yourself to it's mouth or tail, because of the slowly moving away animation it hits dragons multiple times. Great against demogorgon or Tiamat too. Animation is very slow though, Seismic is faster/better in most cases.
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  • mrjarqomrjarqo Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited January 2016

    1) Get yourself some lifesteal. All your defensive enchants should be darks. If you have

    hahah R11-r12 haha VIP haha 20% LS hahah------- change in GWF is free ;-)

  • feanor70118feanor70118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    mrjarqo said:

    1) Get yourself some lifesteal. All your defensive enchants should be darks. If you have

    hahah R11-r12 haha VIP haha 20% LS hahah------- change in GWF is free ;-)

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