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krctlc73krctlc73 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
First off here is my stats
CW
Item Level 2110
62425 hp
7589 power
4441 critical
6676 ap

I still am getting kicked. Very frustrating when your good enough to get them through the dungeon and get kicked after dieing multiple times at last boss when in fact everyone was dieing not just me....or que for a dungeon just to land to get kicked. It hasn't changed and it sucks. How are you to get gear? Then to top it off people Q.Q about gs in the past but constantly kick you from dungeons. I don't want to hear CW suck or any kinda other HAMSTER. I just want to know why this is still an issue and if others are experiencing same or is it possible my stats suck. Which I thought were pretty good for just turning 70 2 days ago.

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  • sh00termcl0vinsh00termcl0vin Member Posts: 287 Arc User
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    Did you have a tank and healer when you were on this run? All dungeons in neverwinter are now tank and spank encounters due to trash mobs and bosses that can now one shot anything. If you want to venture in there with a different group comp your going to need a higher degree of coordination and GS above and beyond the minimum. Welcome to mod 6.
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  • Well...some ppl r just gonna be d****...simply put. It's possible u were put into a pre-made group, & that's why u were kicked, maybe there was already a CW, maybe another class was needed, maybe u were just in a bad group, maybe the gear ur wearing, etc. Try joining a guild if ur not in 1, or run them with other guild members if u r in 1. In terms of ur stats, a little hard 2 say since u only posted a couple, but ur power is quite LOW. I see u have good AP, so ur penetrating most of the enemies armor, but by the same token, there's no dmg behind ur attacks though. Look at ur POWERS tab...I'm guessing the highest #'s u see 4 the dmg of ur powers fall somewhere around 10k (just guessing since Idk 4 sure). Remember, the enemies in EE r SIGNIFICANTLY stronger, so having 7.6k power just won't cut it

    I'm a TR
    I.L. 2260
    50k hp
    14.3k power
    3k crit
    4.5k ap

    Under my POWERS tab, I have #'s as high as 24k right now

    Just trying 2 help, but back 2 the original topic, just run with ppl u know, or other guild members. Kicking in this game is just something ur gonna have 2 live with unfortunately. Ppl will find ways around anything they implement until VTK is removed completely
  • yourenext2dieyourenext2die Member Posts: 614 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    I hear ya, yesterday I ran Malabog's Castle and 3 straight times I was the last one alive fighting the end boss and I ended up being kicked. I was like really? I couldn't even do alot of DPS because I spent half of my time trying to stealth/daze revive everyone dropping from one shots. Having 14K power isn't going to cut it if you only have 30k HP in this mod, especially if your fighting head to head and not dodging AOE. My stats are very similar to Blizzard's. Only I gave up around 1,100 power for 2 Burning PVP gear items to get my HP's up. I'm sitting at 70k hp right now and it definitely helps. But Blizzard is right, your power should be higher. At minimum another K higher. (Aim for 10K+ long term) Awesome AP though, that should be enough to ignore any boss.
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  • patsfirepatsfire Member Posts: 833 Arc User
    Well @yourenext2die you get kicked because you are a TR, no other reason behind it. I know, I am also a TR. People think that even though we destroy everything and can revive them by going stealth, that we are a useless class when it comes to fighting bosses. Even though we put SO MUCH damage on him, the TR haters think that they go down NOT because of their lack of skill...but because the TR isn't doing enough damage (go figure). Those people are clueless and I hate when I get put into lobbies with them.
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  • monktoastymonktoasty Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    Of course kick is still an issue, they never actually fixed it.

    The thing is, with how this game waa developed, it only attracts credit card kiddies who think they are good at games.

    Sadly, just like pc, all you will have left are credit card kiddies so my advice is quit this game. Its just going to get worse
  • patsfirepatsfire Member Posts: 833 Arc User
    Technically there is a VTK fix, at least when running Kessels Retreat. I noticed that you can not VTK when there is ANY loot on the ground. Someone disconnected for like 5mins, and we tried to kick but we couldn't because we did not pick up some cr*ap green drop at the very beginning. It will say something like "Can not kick while High Value loot is out", or something like that. So that solves part of the problem right there. All the other problems with VTK are still an issue though.
  • stercesderisedstercesderised Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    Wow...and the biggest issue I see with VTK is that there are many times where we wanted to kick someone and the VTK feature is bugged (say s cannot kick while valuable loot is on ground when absolutley everything has been picked up).

    Makes dungeons a total suck when you are trying to run tough content and the extra is pulling HAMSTER whenever and however much they want...
  • patsfirepatsfire Member Posts: 833 Arc User
    Like I said, I have only noticed that "fix" while running Kessels Retreat. Granted I have only run that, ELOL, and ESOT since hitting lvl 70
  • randomdigits#2166 randomdigits Member Posts: 700 Arc User
    Well, there is a new problem now.

    I was running the otherwise simple Wild Hunt skirmish. Since the team was quite weak (the tank was consistently ignoring the mobs which were wiping out the CWs) we had issues with the boss.

    One of the players got disconnected for good early in the dungeon. We were not able to kick him/her off cause the game was saying we have some valuable loot on the ground. Honestly, that skirmish has pretty much zero valuable loot, but we had to collect all that garbage before we were allowed to successfully vote kick the disconnected player and get a new one.
    Ana Taletreader (CW) / Friend of Casual Gamers
  • delta522delta522 Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    patsfire said:

    Well @yourenext2die you get kicked because you are a TR, no other reason behind it. I know, I am also a TR. People think that even though we destroy everything and can revive them by going stealth, that we are a useless class when it comes to fighting bosses. Even though we put SO MUCH damage on him, the TR haters think that they go down NOT because of their lack of skill...but because the TR isn't doing enough damage (go figure). Those people are clueless and I hate when I get put into lobbies with them.

    This is the absoulte truth man I know where your coming from. I hardly ever got to complete dungeons because of vote kick garbage. So I Thought alright, if everyone thinks rogues suck I'll make mine have unbelievable overkill and after spending over $2000 It was pretty close to unstoppable. My rogues gear score at like 15600 could stealth and wipe out entire groups of enemies with one dazing strike and if there were any survivors I would finish it with a lashing blade. Bam just like that! And I would still get kicked every time. Well, finally I was able to not get kicked out of a dungeon, it happened to be castle neverand right when we finished killing the enemy I got thrown out. Didn't get anything for it at all. So I completely quit playing dungeons and decided I would play pvp because there was no vote kick on it. I wasn't a huge fan of pvp but it had good armor you could get so I finally got it and I thought it was pretty cool. And After this update OMG!!! Theres no chance anymore I Normally Solo and Things are killing me more often than not And I mean things that I could have easily killed before with no problem. This update has really made things difficult for this class and if your not a TR you have no idea, It's ******* ridiculous. Way Too weak, life steal doesn't work like it used to, Shodow of demise doesnt work, The area of effect for attacks seem reduced, Lashing blade takes half a minute to recharge. The difficulty of the game has increased I've heard alot of people talking about how much harder it is. Well, they are correct it is harder. And for TR's it's way worse because they weakened our class extremely. So unless that changes, TR's as far as I can see will still get kicked out. Even more now than they ever did. So in my opinion the update was good for new levels and equipment but it has destroyed The TR class which is my favorite one. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. And pvp seems to cause more trouble than it's worth. There has got to be a way to change the rogue back to an awesome addictive powerhouse in PVE. Without affecting the changes made for PVP. Before the update I would have took 4 TR's and 1 cleric any day or 2 clerics and 3 TR's. Now Idk, people say the dungeons are even more difficult, Never even got to beat tiamat, I feel pretty much worthless now. You wont get stronger either because you wont be able to get into any dungeons.
  • randomdigits#2166 randomdigits Member Posts: 700 Arc User
    Trying doing eToS and Kessell's Retreat. These give seal rewards, more so if you have the keys (Zen Market ones for eToS and campaign one for Kessel). Granted IL or Class-based kicking happens there now and then, but 50% of the time I can find a match of similarly low-IL folks and with some trouble but still reliably we eventually make it through the end. Usually there are a couple of TRs with us in such random parties. :wink:
    Ana Taletreader (CW) / Friend of Casual Gamers
  • randomdigits#2166 randomdigits Member Posts: 700 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    One more scenario where I feel very much like I should be initiating a vote to kick:

    We are in a skirmish with a PUG of 1800-2200 iL guys who are still learning it just like me.
    It takes a few wipes in the boss room before everyone learns the mechanics. But there is a problem.
    There would be one very well geared guy, perhaps 2700-3000 iL with perfect ArPen, Power, Crit, LifeSteal.
    Who, on our third attempt, does not go down.
    And he continues slowly fighting the boss one-on-one for 20 minutes.
    In the end he would be the only one to get the bonus seals and we wasted 20 minutes instead of learning how to fight and killing the boss in half of that time.

    I usually leave the room when I see that this is what's going to happen, but I think I'm about to start vote kicking.
    Ana Taletreader (CW) / Friend of Casual Gamers
  • apathy408apathy408 Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    Your stats suck....... Well maybe that's harsh but they aren't anything other than normal. My forgotten about alt has better stats than that to be honest. So...... Before you go thinking that how dare anyone kick you, maybe you were the weak link. I wasn't there so take that with a grain of salt but it's food for thought. Also here's the thing I never understand about kicking. If you're always getting kicked why don't you go make a friend? If the kids who complained about getting kicked put as much effort into joining a guild or making friends to run dungeons with as they did whining on the forums that they got kicked, it wouldn't be an issue. I've been kicked a few times myself. Not because I wasn't good but because loot dropped. Yeah it sucks but instead of crying I joined a guild. Problem solved.
  • zman81420zman81420 Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    So I Thought alright, if everyone thinks rogues suck I'll make mine have unbelievable overkill and after spending over $2000 It was pretty close to unstoppable. My rogues gear score at like 15600 could stealth and wipe out entire groups of enemies with one dazing strike and if there were any survivors I would finish it with a lashing blade. Bam just like that! And I would still get kicked every time.

    So wait a second, you spent $2,000 for a 15.6k GS? This Puzzles me... I obtained 19.3k as a GF without a penny spent and I am in "We Bought our Gear Score"
    If you ever need help running daily's run with a guild til you can get mechanics down and invest heavily in potions and perhaps look into your rotation of abilities. Build searching PC forums or MMOMinds. Then again what do I know I just and keep the group alive... God Mode was lost when Mod 6 dropped we are all expendable in PuG (Minus Super Awesome Tanks, pats back).
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  • rroadwarrior#3554 rroadwarrior Member Posts: 5 New User
    This game has become a joke. I play DDO on the computer, and you can't kick anyone until everyone leaves the dungeon, period. If you didn't have to fight 5 to 10 minutes worth of mob trash after you kill a boss, it would cut the time down on these dungeons and players wouldn't have so much time invested into that dungeon.

    You then, could leave the party and join another party, without having to invest hours into running the same dungeon .

    These are simple fixes to this game, but the reality of it is, that game designers could really care less.
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