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Why I went DPS cleric

popezen01popezen01 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
I have read several threads on DPS clerics and peoples thoughts on them and experienced personally being booted more often than not..

I have heard these arguments: 1) Its the class you chose you are required to heal. 2) Healing is your role in the team, heal or be ill boot 3) If you want to DPS pick a real DPS role

My counter arguments 1) when I was a healer it was very uncommon, and still is today, to be grouped with a GF. 2) It is very uncommon to find a control wizard that actually controls agro 3) because of the two reasons above I was 9 times out of 10 getting slammed by agro after healing and forced to either use pots or use heals on myself. Almost every group is pure squishy dps that does nothing to help you. Where is the "team role play" here? So this is a wash, you think I need to be a team player but no one else needs too?

Why I became a DPS cleric 1) my guild is pretty awesome and once we were all BiS I really sat around doing noting but debuffs and buffs, it was all rather boring. 2) Everyone I ran dungeons with were leveling up items with massive RPs while I got none. I would have to go on in off hours to farm RP on my own. Since RP are mostly bound then why not give healers AD to buy RP for 1/5 what the team gets in a day of runs? Don't want to do that? Why should be pay the price of spending extra time on our own to get RP?

In answer to "get a real dps character" I am always top 2 in runs in dungeons or skirms. Why would I roll a character that does less dps?

My only wish is that dps clerics can be seen as different from actual healers so when groups are made we can have a chance to get a dps cleric and a healing cleric. I almost never get another cleric in my group. When I do I can melt a run.

Mod 6 will not change my thinking. I finally have a ton of RP and will be able to do some great leveling when 2x RP comes. And its FUN to play now. I will switch to astral shield and use hallowed ground when a group of pugs is struggling but if you want health do what I always had to do..... buy pots.

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  • masterwolf56masterwolf56 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    I love my dps cleric. If I'm the only DC, I'll heal. If I'm running with another DC I move to DPS. My GWF is pretty much done until the next mod. I have all his boons done and don't have to do the campaign anymore. So I moved all his enchants to my DC and going to level them up while I get his boons through Tiamat. There's very few DPSs clerics out there and I know that my debuffs are pretty good during Tiamat raid.
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  • atlas77777atlas77777 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    DPS Cleric is insane. Watch Alex do a 928k!

    http://xboxclips.com/ALeXoTiC/be98cdf5-cc81-43b4-9e70-5b04ca330cad
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  • popezen01popezen01 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    Atlas is that daunting light that crit for 900k plus?
  • atlas77777atlas77777 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    I believe so.
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  • popezen01popezen01 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    What is your power? I only ever hit for 240k but I still have a lot in recovery that will go to power when I change artifacts
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  • popezen01popezen01 Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    Well they reduced that a lot for mod 6, and with a power and defense focus in thinking it will still rock. We will see
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  • atlas77777atlas77777 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    @popezen01 you have to realize we run as many buffs and debuffs as we can get, but with my KC set they're over 10k.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1198167/legendary-outlaws-kill-lostmauth-before-phase-2-video
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  • masterwolf56masterwolf56 Member Posts: 204 Arc User
    I won't respec. If anything, I run with other full heal clerics.
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  • mrtehpuppymrtehpuppy Member Posts: 168 Arc User
    I have a theory on a way to make a Righteous DC that can still heal decently in Mod 6. Obviously can't test it out yet... but I will be.
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  • ladyjanylealadyjanylea Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    as a healing cleric and having played with a dps cleric on my team I have to say they are amazing. I watched mobs melt away and bosses die so fast the ads did even show up! I will definitely be building one separate from my healer cleric!
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  • nem3slsnem3sls Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    what are suggested companions for active boni on DPS DC?

    asides the ioun stone of Allure :)

    also enchants, talking enchants for weapon Vorpal/Plague for armor Soulforged but the rest? Radiants for Power, Azures, do I need Dark, do Clerics need ARP at all? Like a TR or GWF?

    After having a TR, HR, GF, GWF and now a DO DC, I am used to grant ARP what is needed, except the GF of course but I totally fail to see if its neccessary for the DC...

    thanks for your input
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  • darkpathslpdarkpathslp Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    As a SW I hate to see my role going to another staple class. I have only grouped with 2 DC specced for dps both did ok. The DC kinda reminds me of the WOW paladin able to do multiple roles very well that said whose going to heal me *sigh*?!
  • soonergmsoonergm Member Posts: 503 Arc User
    DPS cleric would still need good arpen. Crit is good too because you crit heal as well as damage.
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  • raymond00713raymond00713 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    You're correct. End games guilds don't need heals. Or at least they shouldn't with the current content. I'd like to see if that changes with the upcoming mod.

    The only people upset are pug that expect to be carried. Not much you can do about that but run with good playersf
  • zephyriahzephyriah Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,980 Arc User
    nem3sls wrote: »
    Radiants for Power, Azures, do I need Dark, do Clerics need ARP at all?

    All DPS classes (cleric included) need ARP. A healing cleric does not.

  • nem3slsnem3sls Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    zephyriah wrote: »
    nem3sls wrote: »
    Radiants for Power, Azures, do I need Dark, do Clerics need ARP at all?

    All DPS classes (cleric included) need ARP. A healing cleric does not.

    aye, thank you. figured by trying around. thank you all.
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  • nem3slsnem3sls Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    We were doing CN the other day and I was on my Divine Oracle DC, I was dealing a total of 69mil damage when all was over, on my HR its around 74mil in CN, so DPS Clerics are awesome :)
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  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    nem3sls said:

    We were doing CN the other day and I was on my Divine Oracle DC, I was dealing a total of 69mil damage when all was over, on my HR its around 74mil in CN, so DPS Clerics are awesome :)

    Hi Nem, I'm getting better at DPS DC but could you tell me what are the best skills & skill rotation? My DC is 14.5k and does decent damage but nowhere near that good :o
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  • nem3slsnem3sls Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    armadeonx said:


    Hi Nem, I'm getting better at DPS DC but could you tell me what are the best skills & skill rotation? My DC is 14.5k and does decent damage but nowhere near that good :o

    Yes of course I can let you know my rotation, first I do AS followed by chains, followed by Divine glow. Switch to divinity and go from chains to divine glow and finish off with the lance of faith OR switch back and start over.

    *on a side note, I know that Brand of the Sun is recommended but I still feel that the lance of faith is doing more damage for me, maybe I am imagine things but yeah.

    Rinse and repeat.

    mobs are melting in T2 dungeons, I am wearing the Beacon of Faith(T2) set, the Miracle healer(T1) is also a superb(if not the best) set for clerics, I just like the beacon one better, Ancient main and off(my campaign is in like the middle right now- so no arti main and off for now).

    For tougher enemies and/or bosses I additionally use Hammer of Faith(they dont like it heh)

    My class feats are foresight and terrifying insight.

    When it comes to the healing aspect, which still isnt bad, I have hallowed ground, sun burst(normal and divinity mode) and ofc divine glow(normal and divinity) self healing is very good too.

    I have rank 8s slotted(imo 9 and 10s are AD grave), perfect Vorpal on my main weapon, Ioun stone of Allure(blue)(has a slot for Icon), bonding runestones on it. You might want to have Erinyes of Belial(mine is blue) for +crit sev% and also the dancing blade if you wish(I dont have the blade, gonna get it though).

    Artifacts(for now) Heart of the Red Dragon(purple)(I´m a Dragonborn), Tiamats Orb(blue ready to upgrade), Lantern of Revelation(blue ready to upgrade)I also have the waters and several others but those are the ones I wear on a daily base,

    TL;DR
    AS, chains, divine glow-> switch then chains, divine glow, lance OR switch -> AS, chains, divine glow -> switch...

    hope that helps.
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  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    Cheers Nem, I'll go experiment ;)
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  • davidagaldodavidagaldo Member Posts: 383 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    That rotation works great. I do use Brand of the Sun, it is what I lead with. Seems that it is marinating and when other powers are unloaded it will zap half of more of health and DoT continues to work its magic. I often times get yelled at when walking by someone with a quarter health in PvP. Damage is done, move on the the next opponent, they fall to their death trying to get in another shot at you. Have to make sure to pay attention if the opponent has Soulforge. ;)

    I do want to try the full Beacon set for my guildies, I like that bonus.
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  • gkjones85gkjones85 Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    Brand is best IMO. Dot everything and watch your divinity go up while you cast from divinity can get an extra divinity hit in if you do it right with brand
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