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Anyone Miss running the older dungeons?

rarefactionrarefaction Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
I know they don't drop the best stuff anymore but if you have not had the chance to experience older dungeons such as Epic Idris, Greywolf den etc...because people would rather grind out the most current dungeons, join channel "Old dungeons" It's very difficult to get people involved in running that content but it can still be a fun experience for those who never got the chance.

Not trying to spam, I just don't know where this falls under on the forums.
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  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I do miss running the older dungeons. My partner just recently started playing this game, and I offered to run him through every dungeon once he got the quest to do them as he levels. So far I have had so much fun doing that. The latest one we did was the icespire peak dungeon (forget its name) and that one was actually a little challenging (more because of chain prone than anything, but still fun).

    Its not always about upgrades, sometimes running a dungeon should be for fun and to make money. Heck I can salvage or post on the AH whatever I get from said old dungeons while possibly helping a newer player get some upgrades. I like that feeling myself.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Tired of running dungeons with exploiters and cheaters? Join the legit channel by visiting http://goo.gl/1zfnTS to apply!
    Performing ritual pony sacrifices to Tiamat to earn favor with the RNG Gods since 2014.
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  • niteingaleniteingale Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I don't because I run them regularly with my guild or solo. Especially T1s - they are the best designed and most fun dungeons in the game. Sure it's not much of a challenge with our gear but you can always rectify this by e.g taking off your gear and using only what you find - definitely more fun than another eLoL or Tiamat on a lazy weekend. If they ever re-scale T1s to be more challenging I'll probably spend most of my time at Ethraniev Marrowslake's or Idris's parties :)
  • cetaceta Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Whats the point ? We have taimat and scammers... No moderators... you get booted at boss ALOT, theres alot of whineing. And when there was stragity to go through the dugneons, ITs not popular anymore so now no one uses it and they run through hack and slash. The 20k gear scores talk smack agaisnt the 12k gear scores... Its just drama all round. Id perfure to stay out of drama.

    Awsome niteingale.. But to be serious, when someone in my guild wants an item in a dungeon. Id perfure to just get them the item in AH. They are now cheap enough to where it doesnt break you. And you dont have to waste the time going through a dungeon, ATM, the T2 items are better in the armor,helm,boots,bracers setup then the draconic gear that you get from taimat. So thats awsome.. And then after that all you gotta do is farm talmait for the belt and cloak. And still the belts werent thought about as it definatly is very noticable that the GMS just put the state scores anywhere... For the most part all the belts seem to be built for the wizard builds...

    :(
  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I have not experienced any of the issues you mentioned Ceta. Not a single one. Except some failed Tiamat runs, but that's to be expected.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Tired of running dungeons with exploiters and cheaters? Join the legit channel by visiting http://goo.gl/1zfnTS to apply!
    Performing ritual pony sacrifices to Tiamat to earn favor with the RNG Gods since 2014.
    ...
  • niteingaleniteingale Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Well we have Tiamat...indeed...However while Tiamat was a duty of sorts, serious grind and pain in the neck...the old T1s and T2s are simply what they should be - FUN!!!
    And I am absolutely serious about running those dungeons instead of buying the items off AH for a couple of reasons.
    1. If anyone in my guild needs a particular item from those dungeons they are most probably new to the game so they need the practice rather than zerg Tiamat 24/7.
    2. If somebody is new to the game and goes straight to WoD/Tiamat skipping T1/T2s they are missing the whole experience of those dungeons and that is sad.

    Last but not least...it's not a waste of time...If running dungeons for the fun of it is a waste of time for you than, I'm sorry, but you're missing the whole point of the game.
  • mmm1001mmm1001 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 497 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It is quite simple to give second life to old dungeons. They just need to put a black opal in boss chest and make bosses drop some RP instead of useless gear.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    I do miss them.

    I hope Cryptic will start making "heroic" dungeons in which these mobs and bosses do more damage but it would drop a couple of black opals as reward.
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  • imaginaerum1imaginaerum1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    If you're not as concerned about the rewards, and still enjoy the fun of playing detailed content, you might also consider trying some Foundry quests.
    A good way to find some you might enjoy is to look through the list of Featured quests that you have played and liked, and subscribe to the authors. That way, anything else that person wrote shows up in your Subscribed list.
  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It's not just about the rewards. It's also their design that was pretty much the same. Weak bosses with lots of adds.
    Some of them were just too long and had way too much trash to clear as well. (No, I don't care if you and your guildies of uber players did those in under 10 minutes. Puggers like me can take hours in places like Castle Never or Spellplague Caverns, even with no wipes)
    Quite frankly I don't miss those days at all.
    If anything we should ask/hope for the epic dungeons to be updated for level 70 with new rewards and new boss fights mechanics added (also with campfire fixes and trash amount reduction)
    Now if that happened, I would gladly start running them again entirely. (these days I just join and see if I hop in a group at final boss, if not I leave immediately)
  • wildwolf8wildwolf8 Member Posts: 161 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    If they keep wanting us to refine things, the best option is to put refining stones of value in the dungeons and foundries as boss drops and chest items. This would get more people to run older content. However, I feel like what would happen is that people would just continue to sprint through PK as many times as possible.

    Tiamat is the reason people don't do older content. If avatar of war set still cost almost 1mil per piece, people would still want to actually farm the t2 dungeons for it. They made such a mistake when they had t2 items drop from the new content.

    Also, a heroic harder version of all dungeons would be a welcome addition to the game.
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