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nativejoe
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I want to get the Pack even tho it is grossly overpriced... for what it actually is.
But I'm wondering if it truly is as bad as I think it is... or worse...
The enchantments have expirations on them...wtf is that?
The Fashion items... are they one time use? So like to I have to be on my END END END gear to apply them so I look like that. or does this game have a system where I can remove them or even reuse the item to transmute the next tier up of gear to look like it? Not reclaimable? or what?
Armor patches and whatnot. I'd love to apply these patches...however I need to know if I need to apply these to my END END END gear as well or if I can transfer one patch to a new set of gear, like enchantments x.x . reclaimable? or whatever?
If they're all Temporary and one time use. Why even have them ? Anyway I'd like to know what is going on.
Also on the +2 +2 stats. does that mean I can't get the optimum 20 starting stat anymore (as in do I get less stats now or more or somehow the same amount?)
Does the Dragonborn +3%power and crit proc on literally "attack" or per dot tick, or atwill+event+daily? Do these procs stack? (they last 6 seconds so can they overlap or is thier a Interal cooldown?)
are thier BOA parts of this pack?
Or basically are we just getting a trunk load of disposable stuff on a main character that won't use it, and a 30 slot bag for everyone?
No Mount... Guess after spending 100 more dollars on this game I still gotta ride my 5 gold freaking Horse x.x
But I'm wondering if it truly is as bad as I think it is... or worse...
The enchantments have expirations on them...wtf is that?
The Fashion items... are they one time use? So like to I have to be on my END END END gear to apply them so I look like that. or does this game have a system where I can remove them or even reuse the item to transmute the next tier up of gear to look like it? Not reclaimable? or what?
Armor patches and whatnot. I'd love to apply these patches...however I need to know if I need to apply these to my END END END gear as well or if I can transfer one patch to a new set of gear, like enchantments x.x . reclaimable? or whatever?
If they're all Temporary and one time use. Why even have them ? Anyway I'd like to know what is going on.
Also on the +2 +2 stats. does that mean I can't get the optimum 20 starting stat anymore (as in do I get less stats now or more or somehow the same amount?)
Does the Dragonborn +3%power and crit proc on literally "attack" or per dot tick, or atwill+event+daily? Do these procs stack? (they last 6 seconds so can they overlap or is thier a Interal cooldown?)
are thier BOA parts of this pack?
Or basically are we just getting a trunk load of disposable stuff on a main character that won't use it, and a 30 slot bag for everyone?
No Mount... Guess after spending 100 more dollars on this game I still gotta ride my 5 gold freaking Horse x.x
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The Fashion items are just vanity costumes , they can be worn as long as you want but bind to whoever uses them first.
And the gear reinforcements cannot be removed once you use them so be careful what you use them on.
Basically you are paying for a race with good stat allocation ,a race change token , a artifact, a 30 bag slot on all existing and future characters on that account and a character slot and lots of fluff.
If you factor in nothing else, and with just two characters the pack is a fair deal.
You're not really drawing much attention to the fact that you'd get 405 power, are you?
A Radiant Rank 10 is 300 power.
405 more power is nothing but only 2.4% bonus dmg. I prefer 5% Crit Severity which is good enough considering that 13.5k Power is 81.32% bonus damage, that crit sev will be more noticeable due to the base damage than the extra bonus dmg.
Half Orc is f2p and same stat points that I would use with a Dragonborn, STR+DEX.
Well, the point of the Dragonborn stat bonus is the flexibility.
If you want to play a half-orc DC, you're basically gimping yourself (DEX + CON? Maybe for pvp...). With Dragonborn, there is no bad stat combination; you can always pick two stats that will work well with any class.
Yeah right but I specifically mentioned in my previous post that it was from a GWF PoV, I didn't mention the other classes. :P
Your "leet" stats, and Epicness have nothing to do with my post.
Ok, looks like you have not idea what you are talking about.
First, I'm not trolling and you are violating a forum rule by calling me like that FYI. We are talking about the effectiveness of the Dragonborn race 3% Power and I used my own stats trying to bring a picture because if it's not good for me with my actual power, it's even worse for the mid range player base that have between 7k and 10k power. Everything what I have posted is based in solid information and formulas.
You are completely wrong if you think that this have nothing to do with your post, the Dragonborn race is the main feature in the pack and if you were really interested about it, you should check how the bonuses works.
Have fun playing with something that you don't even know how it works.
@lazaroth666 Every one of your contributions to the thread are off-topic. You may not be trolling, but you are hijacking, which also is against the rules. You are also rather insensitive, nay, outright intentionally insulting with your last sentence (which is a specific trolling statement - but I won't call you that publicly). What does it matter to you if another player you'll likely never meet in game knows how something works or not? And I'm sure they'll have a LOT of fun, especially when you go away.
@OP I think your questions are valid and definitely something to consider before spending a lot of money, as "value" is subjective from person to person. So here's what I can tell you - and obviously I don't have the pack yet...
These are a new type of enchantment called "Overload" enchantments for some kind of new gear that works like Black Ice gear: they will have "Overload" slots in addition to the "regular" enchantment slots. Think of it as adding a "booster battery" to your gear - or maybe a "turbo ability" - that only lasts so long and will need to be recharged at some point.
This is simply a way to obtain some initial Overcharged Enchantments to get you started as these type of enchantments will drop as loot in game. Probably something you can't use until you get that kind of gear - probably end-game levels.
The fashion items (ceremonial and warrior gear) are just that: fashion items. Once worn they stay put until and unless you change them. They are not gear. They are claimable on all your characters.
If you're referring to the Bahamut Regalia... As far as I can tell these are a one-time-only thing and NOT available for all characters - which makes me sad panda very much. I can only hope I'm wrong because the information page is not specific one way or the other (but I'll assume they are not claimable by all characters).
These are a lot like the hood and cloak you get in HR Booster pack, the ring and stone necklace you get in Feywild pack and so on. They are blue-quality items that do have some gear stats and give you some extra power/stats in the beginning but you will eventually out level them around 25-30 or so. However you can use them for transmuting - so you'll want to save them for end-game to transmute any top-level gear you have (unless it turns out they are reclaimable - but I won't hold my breath on that).
NOTE: that I am speculating on this because the Bahamut Regalia *appears* similar to the Hood, Cloak, Necklace, and Ring I speak of from the other packs. So this part of the kit could be something completely different and new.
I agree... mostly. But even if they are one-time only, I intend to use them, then save them for transmuting top-gear at end-game.
I'm not sure of your question - but I don't see why not. Of course "optimum" is a subjective thing that each person feels differently about.
This is something we won't know until someone does tests on it. Personally I don't see how this could possibly be a purchasing decision factor, but I do understand different people have different priorities when making such decisions.
Everything in this package is BoA - you cannot trade or sell them (in AH for example). If you mean "claimable on all characters" - it is known that the fashion, artifact, ring, and bag are claimable on all characters. The Bahamut Regalia stuff is questionable. I believe the rest are one-time, one character only.
Thank goodness. Seriously - there are four other packs that come with mounts - enough of that already. The same with companions. (I have all the other packs - and if this one came with a mount or companion it would actually *lessen* the value for me). Your best bet for obtaining a good mount is to buy one of the other packs, get one from the Zen Market, or from another player or lockboxes in-game. But even the white-quality mounts in game aren't all that bad (I see a lot more of those than any other - and those players must be satisfied, right?)
One way to approach it: budget the full $99 for Dragonborn package, buy it now while on sale, use the $24 savings and add $1 to buy $25-worth of Zen, then buy one of the awesome Purple Rank III Mounts from Zen Market for 2500z. There - all set and within budget.
http://gatewaytest.playneverwinter.com/, character sheet > collections.
WTB Class Reroll please
Right, because talking about the Dragonborn racial bonus which is part of the Dragonborn pack is off-topic, of course I will go away, too much ignorance in this thread.
Lazaroth, have you posted your current build on this forum at all?
It would be nice for you to show your over-experienced skills in this game.
Deal 44 fire damage and grants you 6 defense for 8 seconds.
Maybe it's just me but that...that is...underwhelming.
Artifact damage scales with level. Wouldn't it be too OP if it dealt fixed ammount of damage viable for 60 lvl?
WTB Class Reroll please
I think those are the numbers for a level 1 green artifact. I think they just forgot to update this when the package was changed to include a level 60 artifact instead of a level 1.
Tbh I think they should scale artifact level with player level so it's not OP at the low end, but it's good for me, I just want to skip fast to l 60. I've done the levelling too many times already. There are other items that allow you to be OP in pvp already and money would still allow you to do so.
shhh . . . don't ruin it. just bask in the love as you level up
Yep, it's one factor I considered when buying mine. Overpowered if you pvp at low levels and makes low content too easy. But when I've done it more than enough times it's definitely something I'll appreciate even if it shouldn't exactly be like that. Of course buying rank 10s, using mulhorand for perfect enchants and scaling gear also allows that to happen so it's not like it really matters. And you could just pay to refine it anyway. It may not be balanced, but there's no avoiding imbalance anyway for those that want it.
That's assuming it's ever available as a race anyway -- Mod4 is live, dragonborn are not. *shrug*
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