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flyingleon
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Since many people are talking about the prices of enchants 5+ on AH and the AD and zen exchange recently. I want to make a simple suggetion on leadership task on level 20, which I think will help both problems.
The suggestion is that take away the 1600 AD award for finishing the task. Instead awarding a new refining box which ensure one of the following items:
rank 5 runestone;
rank 5 enchants;
blue mark of any kind;
a refining stone with points between 1000-2000.
It will certainly ease the pain of the rising enchants prices, and more important, it will reduce the AD in the market. I think it is the right direction to go, people get AD by spending time playing the game itself not leadership profession. And people already invest a lot time in leadership profession still get some good rewards.
The suggestion is that take away the 1600 AD award for finishing the task. Instead awarding a new refining box which ensure one of the following items:
rank 5 runestone;
rank 5 enchants;
blue mark of any kind;
a refining stone with points between 1000-2000.
It will certainly ease the pain of the rising enchants prices, and more important, it will reduce the AD in the market. I think it is the right direction to go, people get AD by spending time playing the game itself not leadership profession. And people already invest a lot time in leadership profession still get some good rewards.
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My opinion is that you (and other ppl crying ) are just jelous that you dont have the patience and the determination to keep leveling up each day ,for like 4 months , leadership. Changing the reward tell me , it will fix the problem? NO it will make worst.
I think you just want to accomplish some goal faster in some weeks when ppl got all their rank 7-8 gems in like 6-7 months of farming + playing.
Leadership rank 20 has nothing to be nerfed or changed and for surely it doesnt affect the ADZEN Exchange.
I would actually suggest getting rid of it completely and crediting any character with 20 Leadership 250 000K AD (or about 20 days of Leadership as compensation), and also have a vendor where people can sell the leadership assets for a fixed AD price. Also get rid of the AD from invocation and instead improve the rewards for ardent coins while making them BoA. Finally, double the AD for completing skirmishes, etc while keeping the cap at 24K.
These changes would greatly reward people for actually playing the game, while massively reducing the effect of gold-sellers.
Some of us (I suspect many) don't much care about refining. Astral Diamonds are considerably more flexible. Be darned careful what you ask for because you just might get it. And with something not thought through like this hair brained idea will come back to bite you in the backside to heavy regret.
I reiterate: ummm, NO.
You want rank 5 and 6 enchantments? Open lockboxes: they always give Rank 6 or better.
First of all, I have finshed two level 20 leadership and that is not jelous. Secondly if the AD supply reduces, it will certainly affect the ADZEN exchange. Although I don't know how much. The point is that some people may farm AD through the leadership and they never play game itself. People like me who has rank 20 leadership may still benifit from a stronger AD currency.
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I also don't see rising enchant prices as a problem at all....quite the contrary - it will even make it worthwhile for the average player to gather and sell enchants they don't want.. I have been collecting my enchants since day 1 and using those, instead of buying those 99r5 stacks sold by the botters. Now, it takes time, but I currently have a mix of r8 and r9 enchants - still quite a way from having a set of R10 though. Of course I have to buy the marks - but the AD I get from the leadership tasks and elsewhere covers that quite nicely.
As I said, I don't see a problem.
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Why I am not so surprising what you just said! Anyway to yourself: Be darned careful what you ask for because you just might get it. And with something not thought through like this hair brained idea will come back to bite you in the backside to heavy regret.
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Before anybody lays into me let me point out that I would hate for this to happen just as much as anybody else since my main and 5 of my alt characters have lvl 20 leadership and the other 8 alt characters have leadership at 18 or 19 but I think it is a pretty obvious target for the developers since there seems to be such a huge amount of excess AD knocking about at the moment ,plus even if they do nerf it there is no reason that it couldn't be unnerfed at a later date .
OP's idea is rather good. If implemented, it would probably alienate some players from the game, but it would be for the best, since those players are major printing presses. They do not generate any revenue for Cryptic/PWE, and are spoiling the game for decent players.
This is one of the very reasons I suggested having a discussion folder for casual players, as most of the discussions/suggestions "generally" revolve around those that play for many hours each week.
Cryptic: Heed my advice; if you nerf AD gain in the Leadership profession, you are going to alientate many of your casual gamers.
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Read this please:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?567591-Trace-s-Guide-to-AD-Creation-and-Wealth-Building
Author of that thread and the likes of him are the ones who are destroying the economy, and not us decent players who are actually playing the game and farming dungeons.
I hope I will get a good drop these days, so I can buy a Greater Mark of Potency. Yeah.
You need to understand that who farming dungeons and selling not generate AD, except they salvage the epic items.
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Exactly. Those few thousands generated by salvaging are negligible.
AD costs will not be lowered on fixed items, such as the mount manuals . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Sorry, but I can't seem to understand where your logic leads. Please, enlighten us.
Not many people here seem to understand what the OP is suggesting. One r5 is of pretty much equivalent value to that 1600AD leadership task, and people could still be making a lot of profit by selling r5 stacks, but they would not generate additional AD, and thus inflate the value of AD.
I see the value in what the OP is suggesting. It is just that I am a casual player. The system works better for me as it is. My gaming time is counted in minutes, not hours - every minute of gaming time is precious to me. That may sound weird, but it is my gaming reality.
And some people don't consider some of the AD items as "unnecessary stuff." To each his/her own. I like the mount manuals because I can increase the speed of a generally slow mount that I like - it fits my roleplaying needs/experience.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Just because some people realise that as of right now farming the game is a poor return on time invested into the game and turn to other much more lucrative methods of creating wealth. For many people that kind of thing is the only way to make AD outside of putting in real $$$ as they don't have 24/7 to sit there and farm for drops, nor perhaps the interest after having spent months farming already.
I farmed my first maybe 1-1.5million in 5-7 months then instead of sitting on my a--- twiddling my thumbs I invested it, just like I would in reality. Now I have a AD pile of tens of millions+ and multiple high level enchants and gear. I've been playing since just after caturday(~2 days before I created my first character). So if you think getting to this point is just a wave of my hand and *BAM* 100mill AD, you're wrong.
If you want a "solution" to people creating 20-40 alts for leadership then create an accountwide RAD pool of say, 200-250k instead of the character bound pools.
1- all ppl crying are kids hyped trying to reach end game contenent playing only few weeks .
2- thoese op player that have perfect ench maybe are playing since 1 year ago....
2a- between those player there are exploiters and bug abuser never punished.
so stop saying that leadership rank 20 is to be nerfed.
you can get too many toons rank 20. just grind , farm and you will see result.
logging once every week and complaining is not a costructive way of reporting "fake " issues.
Because truth is not always very surprising.
Ah, I understand that, and I apologise for my perhaps offensive tone. I am glad there are still people who enjoy roleplaying.
We're talking about AD inflation here, and how to counter it, and not about your dedication to making your own wealth. You could have done the same with r5 stacks, especially now that the exploit has been fixed.
There are different aspects of making a game "work". In MMOs economy is a very important factor.
The OP's suggested change would do nothing regarding the AH Pricing, it would further inflate the economy and make it worse than it is right now. Before asking for such changes the change needs to be really thought-out.
For one thing: Astral Diamonds is a currency and can be used to buy anything in-game. Enchantments are an item and useful only to those who actually care about them. Thereby making such a change is to punish the many to satisfy the few.
This change (or anything remotely like it) is not going to happen; it's just too radical. Cryptic Studios is not stupid, and neither is Perfect World, Inc. The very suggestion by the OP is indication of the selfish, entitlement attitude of the one thinking it up. The whole thread is laughable (seriously: I'm laughing. Literally LOL.)
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they have lowered leadership rewards before so there is no reason to believe that they would be unwilling to do it again
I did not knew that. Obviously there was a good reason for that.
the players were not expecting it that time either look at the patch notes there are a lot of unhappy players http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?375171-Patch-Notes-NW-3-20130529g-25
/agreed
Leadership is a decent way for casual players to get some extra AD (and you don't really need to be lv20 to get a good amount of AD, not millions but enough to buy a few things you might need). The actual problem with inflation here is that currently there is nothing really worth buying for AD that isn't on AH (thus, not removing AD from the game).
In STO there is Dylithium, that is roughly the same as AD, but you have a *huge* amount of things you can purchase from the system that players are willing to buy.