T-x Sets are subpar than expected?

thegrandexeno

What I mean is: T1-T2 sets (in general purple things) for HR aren't really good, piece to piece, versus best lvl 60 rare (100AD).

Stat wise they LOSE A LOT (especially power, I think, in general), while the bonuses are ludicrous in my opinion (a flat +400 crit/arp is the standard for 2 pieces that make me lose 6-700 of it...)

I found that just a couple of them are "worthy", in comparison, and is a couple armors and maybe one-two weapons, mainly due to the enhancement slots...

So what are your thoughts about this? Am I really, completely, absolutely nuts, or is there some truth in this reasoning?

Atm my opinion on most of HR sets is "meh".

Just the gaunt ones are good, for me: and it's strange not to find something good, piece vs piece overall in the previous ones.


Correct me...please.

angrysprite

I was shopping purple gear in the AH only a couple days ago for my soon-to-be 60 HR (#2) and in doing that I did a lot of comparing at the wiki and other sources and I must agree: the stuff for HR is really, ummm... lackluster. I did finally go with the Royal GG set (even though I absofeckingly will NOT play PvP) it seems to offer the best set bonus for how I like to play.

Though I do understand a lot of experienced players are going with the blue-level stuff on a lot of different classes (especially DC) because it's a lot more flexible stats-wise. Though with the new BlackIce gear things can change.

but in short: I concur with OP.

gabrieldourden

angrysprite wrote: »

I was shopping purple gear in the AH only a couple days ago for my soon-to-be 60 HR (#2) and in doing that I did a lot of comparing at the wiki and other sources and I must agree: the stuff for HR is really, ummm... lackluster. I did finally go with the Royal GG set (even though I absofeckingly will NOT play PvP) it seems to offer the best set bonus for how I like to play.

Though I do understand a lot of experienced players are going with the blue-level stuff on a lot of different classes (especially DC) because it's a lot more flexible stats-wise. Though with the new BlackIce gear things can change.

but in short: I concur with OP.

Well, the Royal Guard set is vastely superior to anything else in PvE. It allows faster rotations of encounter powers granting more damage, more self-healing and more mobility.
I tried blue, Ilyambruen, Gauntlgrym and the other T2 sets and nothing gets even close to Royal Guard in practice. In PvP it's different, but there you really need tenacity.

angrysprite

gabrieldourden wrote: »

Well, the Royal Guard set is vastely superior to anything else in PvE. It allows faster rotations of encounter powers granting more damage, more self-healing and more mobility.
I tried blue, Ilyambruen, Gauntlgrym and the other T2 sets and nothing gets even close to Royal Guard in practice. In PvP it's different, but there you really need tenacity.

Thanks for validating that I've made a good choice!
(Though as I've said: I agree with OP because looking around I was getting a case of "are you serious about this?").

ghoulz66

gabrieldourden wrote: »

Well, the Royal Guard set is vastely superior to anything else in PvE. It allows faster rotations of encounter powers granting more damage, more self-healing and more mobility.
I tried blue, Ilyambruen, Gauntlgrym and the other T2 sets and nothing gets even close to Royal Guard in practice. In PvP it's different, but there you really need tenacity.

What's the proc rate/chance on it?

spacejew

Uhh...the 4/4 bonuses are basically required for playing HR. If you're just equipping some blues because of GS you're absolutely doing it wrong. It might hold you over until you have a set, but T2 sets are...amazing. And easy to stat yourself with. If you get Grand Warden wear ArP, if you get Royal Guard wear crit rating. It's basically that easy.

Grand Warden's damage proc's insanely often for Storm Warden and Royal Guard proc's at least once per rotation through my encounters. It is absolutely a massive gain using either of those sets depending on your build.

Double Rain-of-Arrows for the win.

thegrandexeno

spacejew wrote: »

Uhh...the 4/4 bonuses are basically required for playing HR. If you're just equipping some blues because of GS you're absolutely doing it wrong. It might hold you over until you have a set, but T2 sets are...amazing. And easy to stat yourself with. If you get Grand Warden wear ArP, if you get Royal Guard wear crit rating. It's basically that easy.

Grand Warden's damage proc's insanely often for Storm Warden and Royal Guard proc's at least once per rotation through my encounters. It is absolutely a massive gain using either of those sets depending on your build.

Double Rain-of-Arrows for the win.

Well, I am not into the "GS" thingie, I just equip what gives me best stats, thats all. And piece for piece, I've seen my poor blues generally are superior to ->most<- of purple/set items.

I searched again and found that someone mixes 2 sets, and the set that gives +mobility is VERY useful.

I am built as a pure archer, dealing damage and assisting in party: in pve I go for StS, for example, and Commanding, to help/damage single/aoe; in pvp I go with Constr/Binding/Ward, could change with a Boar maybe, for "unexpected" closeups and assists. Yeah, I usually make the most assists per game, winning or losing...natural born wingman o.O

The weapons though STILL remain really subpar imho, for the vast majority: of course I found the gauntgr set very good <lol>

Will investigate (and farm o.o) further: in the meantime feel free to add other options, and of course, thanks all for sharing!

gabrieldourden

ghoulz66 wrote: »

What's the proc rate/chance on it?

Can't really tell you in percentage.The experience I have is that if you rotate Rain of Arrows (hitting something), Thorn Ward Thorn Strike and Fox Shift you usually get one proc per rotation. Rain of Arrows in the middle of a CW singularity often triggers it two times, basically giving you the chance to immediately drop a second Rain.
I use a Greater Plaguefire enchantment, not sure if the damage ticks from Plaguefire can trigger the boon or not.

I now respec'ed to Pathfinder, but my previous experience with Stormwarden and Split the Sky was really positive as well.

Obviously you need to maximixe the number of damage instances to get a real use of it, so in dungeons it works extremely well with large encounters with lots of mobs or with big static targets (but those are typically the difficult encounters ayway so it's a good match). Small encounters with trash mobs will give you little chance to trigger the boon, but usually you steamroll them anyway.

In PvP as I said it's not really useful, because you don't have many damage instances on mobile and sparse targets, which is the usual PvP environment.

With my current setup I usually deal the same damage of a CW with my same GS in dungeons, and have better single target DPS. I can't compete with GWFs, but they are on a League of their own at current stage.