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  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well I gave it a test run on PK speed runs last DD. Simply because I've done a lot so I have a baseline for the party composition. My DPS went down :( Not sure if that is a fair test though because it is really easy to aggro some CC in that run and the graphic on StS and aimed are both pretty long. Might test it again on ToS where that is less of an issue and I also have a good baseline for damage.
  • ontiszontisz Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You cannot actually compete RS with AS.
    Both atwills are a must in Range HR build, as well as Splitshot atwill.
    For Valindra you'll need both Rapid and Aimed shots placed in slots. Given that she throws her AOE ticks once per 4-5 seconds, I usually throw up some Aimed shot and then spam Rapid until another tick is taken. That allows me to score the most optimal damage done.
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  • goldheartgoldheart Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I drop Rapid Shot long time ago when I saw that it have same or less damage than Split shot on single target.
    So my setup is just AS+SS.

    So the question is not AS vs RS but "When RS will be useful" ?

    RS is valid only in one way - if you use Prime Critical feat and you have single target. Because then you will can to use often your encounters. But to be useful this you need really high crit rate.
  • ontiszontisz Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    goldheart wrote: »
    So the question is not AS vs RS but "When RS will be useful" ?

    Valindra. RS is a filler in-between Aimed casts. Usually its "get hit by AoE tick, cast AS, shoot twice or thrice by RS, get hit by another tick, rinse and repeat".
    Mi-Ala Starbreeze : HR main. Best PVE HR out there, until someone proves me wrong.
    I've threatened Ghostcrawler and got permabanned at Blizzard forums.
    I went mad at PL "community" in SWTOR and got permabanned.
    Believe me, you don't want to see the tickets I used to sent to CCP. I got permabanned from EVE.
    I was infuriated by the amount of autists in League of Legends and got permabanned. Twice.
    Cryptic, here I go.
    Lo and behold.
  • goldheartgoldheart Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Last boss in Epic DV have same tick but not so often. But is this a reason to put points for this skill ?
    Or I will ask in this way:
    It is needed to waist points for skill which one I will use in ~5-10% of my play time (eventually), when in the same time I can replace it with other skill for same DPS ?
    Where can I use it in PVP - vs other HR ? lol I am happy when someone use this **** against me :D
    Vs GWF that have high def/deflect/regen and his regen is near to dmg that I will do with RS ?
    Vs few bosses in the all game ?

    As I said up if someone have specific build and high recovery+Prime Critical - ok then is very useful. Maybe for Nature build this is ok but for archer one ... no.
    If someday Cryptic fix this broken encounters - ok. For moment, no.
  • goldheartgoldheart Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If you want I am sure that you can replace RS while you kill Valindra.
    AS->Hindering Shot->AS->Constricting Arrow->AS->Binding Arrow->AS.. etc
    Maybe not in this order but something like that and I am sure that you will do same or maybe better DPS.
  • ximaeximae Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    i wouldnt take that rotation to val....

    i feel i need fox for bursting hands ( or her) and marauders for the mobility, third encounter i like to take thorn for the debuff and the fact that it deals more damage than comanding and she just mooves a little too much for rain of arrows.
  • ontiszontisz Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    goldheart wrote: »
    Last boss in Epic DV have same tick but not so often. But is this a reason to put points for this skill ?
    Or I will ask in this way:
    It is needed to waist points for skill which one I will use in ~5-10% of my play time (eventually), when in the same time I can replace it with other skill for same DPS ?
    Where can I use it in PVP - vs other HR ? lol I am happy when someone use this **** against me :D
    Vs GWF that have high def/deflect/regen and his regen is near to dmg that I will do with RS ?
    Vs few bosses in the all game ?

    As I said up if someone have specific build and high recovery+Prime Critical - ok then is very useful. Maybe for Nature build this is ok but for archer one ... no.
    If someday Cryptic fix this broken encounters - ok. For moment, no.

    Um.
    In fact Rapid shot is a must-have-to-advance-to-skills-below skill. You simply cannot avoid it unless you pick something absolutely useless.
    Mi-Ala Starbreeze : HR main. Best PVE HR out there, until someone proves me wrong.
    I've threatened Ghostcrawler and got permabanned at Blizzard forums.
    I went mad at PL "community" in SWTOR and got permabanned.
    Believe me, you don't want to see the tickets I used to sent to CCP. I got permabanned from EVE.
    I was infuriated by the amount of autists in League of Legends and got permabanned. Twice.
    Cryptic, here I go.
    Lo and behold.
  • ontiszontisz Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ximae wrote: »
    i wouldnt take that rotation to val....

    i feel i need fox for bursting hands ( or her) and marauders for the mobility, third encounter i like to take thorn for the debuff and the fact that it deals more damage than comanding and she just mooves a little too much for rain of arrows.

    Thorn is next to useless as she keeps warping around.
    Fox is a must have for 3rd skill slot indeed.
    Marauder is an absolute mandatory for caskets. Without it you wont be able to dispel 3 caskets.
    Commanding shot is barely of any use due to low damage boost but sadly we dont have anything else so it might be useful for buffing the rest of the team slightly.
    Mi-Ala Starbreeze : HR main. Best PVE HR out there, until someone proves me wrong.
    I've threatened Ghostcrawler and got permabanned at Blizzard forums.
    I went mad at PL "community" in SWTOR and got permabanned.
    Believe me, you don't want to see the tickets I used to sent to CCP. I got permabanned from EVE.
    I was infuriated by the amount of autists in League of Legends and got permabanned. Twice.
    Cryptic, here I go.
    Lo and behold.
  • ximaeximae Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Thorn is next to useless as she keeps warping around.

    but she stays enough in the area that it actually does more damage than comanding and stacks some amount of debuffs unless u fire it just b4 she teleports. The other good thing it has over comanding its interaction with prime critical.... but basically yeah i take it as i feel i dont have anything better.
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