Horrible Random Advance Q issues!

welfare

Let me start off by saying i am a firmly stand by the statement that IL does not dictate your skill level. That being said, i play a 15k OP and i constantly find myself in random advanced Q's with People / team compositions that are unable to get the job done. If someone is not able to Q for a certain dungeon they should not be allowed to Q into it via random advanced Q. Time and time again i find myself at the start of FBI with people who don't even have the required everfrost resistance to join the instance in the first place. So i am left with a few choices, Plug away at it for 15 minutes and HOPE people vote yes to abandon instance, Hope someone leaves and takes the 30 minute cooldown so i can leave without getting one or decline every single random advance Q that does not say it is 0/10 members (for Edemo / Sva ). Matchmaking in the random advance q is a nightmare. 95% of the time i click accept on a 0/5 Q it ends up being 30 minutes of trying and then it is abandoned or someone quits. MSP, FBI and MSVA belong in the same category as ToNg and CodG in my opinion if you are going to put them into random Qs. It is nearly impossible to get my random dailies done without fishing for 0/10 Q's or building the perfect team from my alliance chat. Another example i have not done Cloaked Ascendancy campaign yet i can randomly Q into master spell plague. Its not bad since i am almost 16k but for the other people in there its difficult and forces stronger people to have to carry them just to abandon instance anyways.

quicksilver

Stronger people carry weak people? Don't see that often, unfortunately. What I usually see is stronger people leaving weaker people behind, skipping past mobs, and then complaining that the weaker people slogging though all that HAMSTER by themselves are taking too long. I'm a newer player and in my experience, the only time I see any teamwork is if we build our own team before entering the queue.

feanor70118

I've PUGged FBI with a 12k healer and tank and managed to win, but it wasn't easy and they'd never have finished without a DPS toon at least as strong as mine. Most of the time all I see are completely incompetent or just ridiculously weak players who die constantly, can't get up the mountain no matter the teamwork and are utterly hopeless when it comes to Drufi. This is why the minimum IL for the random queue should be increased to 13k. If people want to build a team there's always the LFG channel, if the devs can be bothered to put a real spam filter on it after 5 years. I also believe that the AD rewards for queueing for any dungeon should be the same as queueing randomly - see my earlier thread, "12b AD Reward System Is Bass Ackwards."

adinosii

quicksilver#1850 said:

Stronger people carry weak people? Don't see that often, unfortunately. What I usually see is stronger people leaving weaker people behind, skipping past mobs, and then complaining that the weaker people slogging though all that

Uh. That's what you see in the easy queues. This thread is about the Advanced queue.

adinosii

The thing is, it makes no sense whatsoever to queue up solo for the Advanced queue because of the issues described above.

Sure, you can make a premade group Heal/Tank/3xDPS group and queue up together and run the content without problems, but if you queue up solo there is a very high chance you will just be wasting your time.

schietindebux

adinosii said:

but if you queue up solo there is a very high chance you will just be wasting your time.

It´s not a chance , it´s a fact
I could not care less about player that stumble into advanced queue, armed with a broomstick and a frying pan. Simply trolls on their way to pull some AD from the commmunity.

adinosii

schietindebux said:

It´s not a chance , it´s a fact

Well, there is a small chance you might be lucky and actually get a good group. A really small chance, though, because I suspect most "good" players avoid queueing up solo for the Advanced queue.

No, for the Advanced queue you want a group of decently-geared and reasonably skilled players - and you are not going to get that unless you queue up as a premade group - say DC/OP/CW/SW/dps or something like that (assuming you are not cheating to bypass the heal/tank/3dps rule).

pitshade

I had several successes in FBI and MSP solo queuing in the previous RED. Beating those like that was gratifying but it was also rare and I doubt I would do RAQ solo now. It is one thing to persevere when the game throws bad luck your way. Another to go out and court disaster. Certainly, anyone that solo queues RAQ needs to go in there prepared for failure.