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Looks like we will be getting the key-change on the 17th with the Sea of Moving Ice update...

"nitocris83 said:

Adventurers,

One of the processes we are trying to streamline internally is aligning our Console and PC features for when Xbox One and PS4 versions catch up to the current module. Because Console has additional steps due to Certification, release dates must be decided in advance (which, of course, can still be delayed at the last minute because it’s game development and if something will go wrong, the other thing you didn’t expect will go wrong). With M10b releasing on Console on 1/17, we needed to include the key changes on that date. In an effort to continue providing our PC players Preview access to new features, we made the decision to put this change on Preview as early as possible given the chaos of December and Holidays. This meant that the earliest date available for preview was last week. We felt that, while one week was a short time, it was still more optimal than no Preview access.

As stated in the key change blog, we understand this update doesn’t address all the concerns and we have been absorbing all your feedback. Because design changes are a constantly evolving part of game development, we felt that stating that the preview would only last a week would create a sense of finality that we are not intending. We will continue to ask for constructive feedback, now with the benefit of larger volume of players interacting with the changes, and having both internal discussions on Key Changes/Chest Rewards and communicating with our players as best as possible. "



This quote is taken from another post in the PC patchnotes section...

I guess it's going to be a lot more expensive for console players to get their legendary marks for the new Runic weapons, from Assault on Svardborg, when you can't see if it is the mark you need...

Not cool Cryptic, not cool at all...

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  • dmcewendmcewen Member Posts: 279 Arc User
    They just don't know when to stop, what a shame.
    Guild: Ruthless
    Character: Vendetta
  • vdeekvvdeekv Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    Yep, gg cryptic.

    Could the last player to leave NW please remember to turn off the lights and make sure the door is closed behind them? It still doesn't close properly, even after all the feedback "they've listened to" since release...
  • yiazzyyiazzy Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    Did anyone actually read the latest PC patch notes? States that the required information for getting the Marks is now accurate.

    So...what are you complaining about again?
  • kuero21kuero21 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    yiazzy said:

    Did anyone actually read the latest PC patch notes? States that the required information for getting the Marks is now accurate.



    So...what are you complaining about again?

    Do you have any lousy idea what the drop rates of these legendary marks are? When we can't peak into these chests it will be so much more expensive attempting to upgrade these weapons to legendary. PC had a few weeks in advance to reject their garbage from the chests and save their keys. I thought we were going to have this too.. but of course I was wrong.
    I saved up 90 runic keys already because I figured FBI was not worthwhile and I could use them better for MSVA but with this new "up"date I am mostz likely to burn those through without getting HAMSTER.
    As if it was not HAMSTER enough that we console players are treated as second class citizens and only get half of the goodies that PC has, no, now we are getting screwed all over again.
    Who else is reminded of the coalward fiasco?
  • yiazzyyiazzy Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    I also remember they reimbursed every single player a free coalescent and some pres wards.

    I'm also just going to skip around the whole point of PCs and consoles having different specifications and processing powers...because I'm not getting into that debate without hitting myself at least 10 times due to stupidity.

    The drop rate will be low, yes. The drop rate for EVERYTHING is low. This is nothing new.

    I swear, every sodding gaming forum....
  • kuero21kuero21 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    yiazzy said:

    The drop rate for EVERYTHING is low. This is nothing new.

    That is not the point. It was obvious that we were going to have the key change update. The point is that we get it along with mod 10.5 and no one of us is able to earn the legendary marks without having to pay a fortune.
    yiazzy said:

    I swear, every sodding gaming forum....

    Let me guess... every sodding gaming forum, you totally miss the point of why exactly the people are complaining?
    That is something I can't help you with. Got better things to do anyway.
  • ltsmithnekoltsmithneko Member Posts: 1,578 Arc User
    kuero21 said:

    yiazzy said:

    The drop rate for EVERYTHING is low. This is nothing new.

    That is not the point. It was obvious that we were going to have the key change update. The point is that we get it along with mod 10.5 and no one of us is able to earn the legendary marks without having to pay a fortune.
    yiazzy said:

    I swear, every sodding gaming forum....

    Let me guess... every sodding gaming forum, you totally miss the point of why exactly the people are complaining?
    That is something I can't help you with. Got better things to do anyway.
    Eh I can deal with it, already put about 100x legendary keys in FBI, so I don't mind. :P Don't really care enough to run the other things that don't give me a chance to get the loot I want. Also it's not really that hard to get legendary keys in the first place. ^-^ Not counting the free one you can make everyday , sure I wouldn't mind the timer being altered onem a bit, but ah well.
  • ketthooverketthoover Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    Noob question, but where do you get a legendary key each day?
  • thefiresidecatthefiresidecat Member Posts: 4,486 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    I like albinoni's adagio in g minor for the funeral dirge of neverwinter. RIP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMbvcp480Y4
  • yiazzyyiazzy Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    No Kuero, every sodding forum, are people whining about how they should get everything for minimal effort. Here's a novel concept, don't like the upcoming changes? Don't play then. No-one's forcing you to.

    And I guarantee, you'll be wrong on your assumptions. These assumptions are always wrong.
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  • reefriednunt#3177 reefriednunt Member Posts: 246 Arc User
    Yeah the timing sucks, good thing I've been making the runic key every day for a month
  • kuero21kuero21 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    yiazzy said:

    No-one's forcing you to.


    Tell me something I don't know already. Seriously, if I got a penny each time someone used these kind of redundant phrases, I would be a millionaire by now.

    Now I will be a smartass myself and give you some useless advice: Don't like how people are always complaining? Stay away from the forums then! No one is forcing you to visit this website. Also you are complaining yourself, you are complaining about other people that are complaining.
    yiazzy said:

    And I guarantee, you'll be wrong on your assumptions. These assumptions are always wrong.

    Assumptions? I didn't make any assumptions. It's simply the truth. Btw, hypocrite much? "These assumptions are always wrong." Aha... yeah, whatever.

    Also it's not really that hard to get legendary keys in the first place. ^-^ Not counting the free one you can make everyday , sure I wouldn't mind the timer being altered onem a bit, but ah well.

    Of course its not hard to get them. You just put your wallet out and there you go.. or exchange your Ad and get them for free. It's not hard to get a legendary dragon key, to get a legendary mark, however, will be, but hey, we only need 30 of them.
    I don't really have a problem with getting the key update. PC got it too. The problem I have is that PC had plenty of weeks time to farm those legendary marks without having to spend their keys for each and every trash loot chest, while we don't have this time. Its those weeks that could save us millions of AD and a lot of frustration.
    Once again, we are treated as second class citizens, that's the problem I have. And that's not the first time we get treated like this.
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  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User

    Yeah the timing sucks, good thing I've been making the runic key every day for a month

    Those keys don't work on the chests that hold the marks needed for the weapons, iirc?
  • tom#6998 tom Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Hey guys
    the runic keys cant be used in SVA so there is no point in saving them up
  • reefriednunt#3177 reefriednunt Member Posts: 246 Arc User
    +1
  • kuero21kuero21 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    tom#6998 said:

    Hey guys

    the runic keys cant be used in SVA so there is no point in saving them up

    Wtf, really? The tooltips of the keys state they can be used for the high end content of the SKT Campaign. What a giant rip-off.
  • thejawlivesthejawlives Member Posts: 458 Arc User
    I know what we need...another thread regarding dungeon key change.
  • destrowoddestrowod Member Posts: 484 Arc User
    I found a solution personally to this problem...

    I am simply going to say NO THANK YOU to these new weapons. Even tough they may be more than slightly better than the ones we have right now, i do not feel its worth the hassle to farm for them. If the new 10 men raid is slightly similar to FBI, just running it should be hard to do, as peoples get clicky and run it among themselves. I barely did FBI like 5 times since its release and im a 3.6 GWF with mostly rank 11s and 12s. I am able to run it, its just its rare peoples offer spots even in alliance, as they usually do it among themselves. SKT has burned me out so much on running for the boons etc that i couldn't forced myself on making keys for FBI either, i bough a pack of dragon key thinking "who knows i may be lucky" and then i had the chest being glitchy on me 2 times in a row... Wich i then said "ok good bye FBI, and Hamster you as they like to say in there"

    I feel it will be the same for the new raid for me. Honestly im crossing finger on achievements that won't be too much of a pain, like FBI at least it was just once. But if there is an achievement for fully refining one of the new weapons for exemple, im calling quit on the game no joke.

    One of the thing that has keep me motivated to play this game is the achievements, they where always kinda fair minus the bugs during Underdark for throne etc and i had fun trying to keep my character up to do date to be able to run the new content. If i loose completion possibility cause of a bad achievement, im just leaving and that will be it.

    Im just hoping ill be able to run quickly trough mod 10.5 stuff without too much hassle or grinding, get the achievements and just say good bye to this content and wait for the next one, wich from what i saw on PC, looks like its gonna be better (at first glimpse)

    I supose SKT only appeal to peoples that are maxed 4.3 IL and have an already maxed guild, cause i hate how it does not give anything for us to keep helping growing guild and/or our characters outside the campaign itseLF. How sharandar for exemple gives thaum stones or dread ring stuff for artifacts. Weeklies giving ADs etc

    But what NW need to understand is even if you do max your character, lots of peoples like to have 2-3-4 characters. Honestly i run a GWF as main wich i did SKT with, but i also have a GF and im STILL working on him for running CN... I was able to complete it the other day with lots of scrolls of life etc lol, but i know in a couple months he should be able to not sweat it too much as i am getting to rank 12s on most of my azure on GWF. So after that ill up the azures on my GF. BUT...

    Despite all of this... i do not see myself running SKT with him... Like NO WAY. It was a pain already to do it with GWF, so nop nop nop....

    Not a good thing really when the content does not motivate peoples to run it.
  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    I feel strongly that the game is about to go into another player decline as it did with the introduction of mod 6, the way I worked through that was to ignore everything I found annoying and just farm dailies and hang out with people.
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  • mordekai#1901 mordekai Member Posts: 1,598 Arc User
    I'm more interested in the new item tab.
    As long as I've been able to use Demonic keys I couldn't believe we could choose whether or not to use the key to open a chest... AFTER we used the key to open the chest and look inside.
    So they will work the same as lockbox keys in future eh?
    Ok. Shame, but not worth having a prolapse over.

    I make a couple of demon keys a day and sometimes a couple of dragon keys, and use them.
    I don't hammer the same Dungeon/Trial over and over, so don't tend to run out that often.

    But I can't wait for that new tab...
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited January 2017
    Really, why move it to "Player Feedback"?

    It's not feedback, it's just a heads up for those that happen to browse the forums, and since you haven't deemed this change important enough to inform us about it, why not keep it in "general"...
  • thejawlivesthejawlives Member Posts: 458 Arc User
    SKT is Mod 10...SoMI is 10B for SVA skirmish . Where is the tool tip incorrect?
  • kuero21kuero21 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2017

    SKT is Mod 10...SoMI is 10B for SVA skirmish . Where is the tool tip incorrect?

    It says the keys can be used for the high end content of the SKT campaign. SoMI has no campaign, it just extends the SKT campaign. Therefore SVA and MSVA are apart of the SKT campaign. There you go.
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  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    I have been thinking a lot about the key change and I think as a general rule I probably burn my epic key 90+% of the time and a legendary key about 1% of the time. I also prefer to save my demonic keys for the good loot. So overall if the loot is better, the impact will be minimal, I just wont open the chest that needs legendary keys. We shall see what happens. I need a wheel of elements, so please put that in the first chest I open ;)

    As far as the new content, this too seems to be gated behind new gear and frost resist again so I won't be able to run this either. It is too bad, pretty soon the only free thing about this will be log out :(
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