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"PLEASE FIX DISPLAY DRIVER LOGIN PROBLEM - WE CAN'T GET IN TO PLAY!" Solved-but bad graphics now :(
blackwidowskiss
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"Display driver stopped but has recovered" - followed by gameclient freeze. (and NO game)
LOTS of us have this problem. Please figure out things on YOUR end. Maybe a Rollback? Or maybe you can fix it internally without a rollback. All i know is that there are TONS of us who can't get in to play.
I already had to use the options screen and click 'force verify' and 'safe mode' to get it to load even BEFORE any of this.
(Many people did.)
A LOT of people are upset - You KNEW about this display driver issue before you went forward with this update... and didn't care?
You do realize we can't even get into the game to spend money on you right? The people that CAN get on have horrendous lag. My friend has an Alienware gaming comp - the game runs like cack now after this update... we have both spent money on this game.
LOTS of us have this problem. Please figure out things on YOUR end. Maybe a Rollback? Or maybe you can fix it internally without a rollback. All i know is that there are TONS of us who can't get in to play.
I already had to use the options screen and click 'force verify' and 'safe mode' to get it to load even BEFORE any of this.
(Many people did.)
A LOT of people are upset - You KNEW about this display driver issue before you went forward with this update... and didn't care?
You do realize we can't even get into the game to spend money on you right? The people that CAN get on have horrendous lag. My friend has an Alienware gaming comp - the game runs like cack now after this update... we have both spent money on this game.
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Also it didn't run badly for me all night and I don't really have anything special. BTW alienware is just dell with an expensive logo on it nowdays. imo.
A lot of us wish we were in your shoes.
"I already had to use the options screen and click 'force verify' and 'safe mode' to get it to load even BEFORE any of this."
You're stating there that you already had previous problems that others dont have under normal circumstances, does that not indicate to you in the very least that there are issues with your configuration ? or should each and every software developer out there account for the hardware set up of every possible PC going ?
Are you by any chance using an ATI card on catalyst suite? Are you running any antivirus on constant passive scans etc ?
The error you state is generally caused by the graphics card drivers not detecting a response in over 2 seconds or so, it does that to avoid potentially worse crashes by presuming its heading towards locking up totally... its like a bit of an air bag, there as a safety feature in the driver code, and affects many people on many different configurations on many different programs, Even chrome and firefox can have crashes like this, so, they should withdraw their software shouldnt they ? oh, and i shouldnt forget, they should also compensate all the users of their free software too, shouldnt they ? There are some ways of adjusting the registry entries to extend this buffer time and give that a try, but honestly i cant be arsed to go through that, some site called google might be more bothered to help you out with that.
Also when reinstalling graphic drivers, did you consider reinstalling directx at all ?
I understand it worked yesterday, and it doesnt today, its frustrating i can believe that, however its affected some friends and guildies, yet none of them come out with such an absurd view of rolling it back pre mod etc.
And i'd just like to add, if you didnt appear to be such a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in your posts, i wouldnt be such a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in my reply
Also, you state your friend has an alienware, which is a bit of a moot point, you apparently need to run the game in safe mode to even launch, yet an i3, 4gb RAM and a graphics card from 2008 runs it fine, whats your spec ?
1. use the option in launcher and type in at the bottom command line option: -d3d9
2. if you had ATI VGA card, forget the latest (15.x.y....) driver. The 14.z.w.... version (from last december as far as I remember) is more stable. I rolled back to it after having driver crash in every 5-10 minutes even w/ -d3d9. It does not prevent me to have 2-3 second freezes, but at least no crash.
The first time login loading screen delay (10-20 mins) happened w/ mod6 and maybe w/ mod5, too. Turn off Win power saving by setting Maximum Performance in Control Panel -> System and Security -> Power Options for the first login to prevent the OS to turn off HDD/go to Sleep/Hibernate. The second and upcoming loading are fast so you are free to switch it back after the first successful Character Screen.
Nice ad hominem attack. Guess what I've been trying to help posting my system specs and gameprefs.prefs file contents in case someone with the problem can find something different. You might want to try less pointless rage and attacking others and more doing something productive.
However good it feels to use long words, it is totally undermined by using 'ur'
Actually left me a little speechless for a few seconds there, its a laptop, with integrated graphics on shared RAM...
I understand that, and i feel for you, however consider the changes that an update like strongholds has probably bought to the backend core of the game, the map is huge, they most likely made changes in the precaching to allow for this, its also entirely possible that theres shader changes or updates made too, as <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> evolves over time, its not like the game today looks like it did 2 years ago, its been improved over time
Then why not help them help you instead.
why not include your specs in the original, or a dxdiag read out. Throwing your toys out the pram in the manner you did isnt going to help anyone out other than "<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> worked before, now it dont, roll it back to appease me and my friend now!"
They arent psychic, its like you call a dealer and go mental about your car breaking down, without telling them the make or model and demanding replacement parts etc... you understand the logic there, right ?
Majority of forums etc, you will generally hear the angry few. Its much more common that people actually getup on their soapbox and have a moan than randomly post praise for something. You may feel like 'almost everyone' has this problem, and i dont deny it exists, but you need to take things into consideration before venting in a manner like that ...
This is bad but you did make me giggle with that. I can't count how many times I think this online.
After seeing really similar problems with a wine install in mod4 I think it was. I'm guessing that the problem is the shader compilation on somewhat older model gpu's though I hate to use the word gpu for intel HD video.
One final thing is that I looked up my wotlk patch problems and it was between 3.2.2 and 3.2.2a which was about a week not two weeks so my memory was off. I just wanted to mention that before someone tried to figure it out and called me on it being only one week.
Elsewhere on the forums, someone indicated that they were successful with "-d3d11Enable 0" in the command line of the launcher.
I tried that this morning and finally... here I am in Protector's Enclave. It has also worked for another person in my guild. I am sure a genuine fix will be available as soon as they can figure one out.
THANKS
Log in with safemode and DX disabled, go into the options and enable one of the DX9 options and have it at a sensible resolution, not the absolute maximum thats available, it should still run fine, after that i would expect youll be able to modify most of the graphics settings without problem.
Do you have the option of seeing more details on the crash error message ? is there any reference anywhere to a folder called Neverwinter_en\cef_cache in any of the errors ?
Those that are having this problem, is it on laptop's or desktop's too ?
Youre probably still thinking that its some issue purely with neverwinter, but too many other games have similar issues especially with onboard chips, but its nearly always in certain cases with certain setups. Stuff like a dxdiag specification report is very helpful in cases like this as it helps knowing which onboard chipset you have, 2000 and 3000HD only fully support dx10.1, yet the 2500hd and 4000hd chipsets support dx11.
If someone can pinpoint which resolutions are effected and how to avoid just those, that'd be helpful.
Thanks.
THIS IS YET ANOTHER FRAK UP ON ARC's part (remember elemental evel launch week? and how about the reward package after it?). We should be asking that INSTAEAD of a new module, ARC fixed the game: Any unjutifiable lag in a particular zone anybody? Any broken powers much?
I LOVE the game, but pls ARC make it the game whose stablility I loved in module 3 and 4, nobody's going to stop playing it if you did a fix instead of a mod in 6 months, specially if you were to spice up events.
There - I fixed that for you
I remember Mod 3's issues with all of the Black Ice dropping everywhere. The fix - reduce the number of objects. The other big issue was all of the character powers/boons triggering massive lag during HEs. Remember when the Black Ice Mining HE (not the one in the PvP zone) actually dropped black ice when you beat it? Good times those were.
Mod 4 - same thing only with dragons. Mod 5 - ditto. I don't know if it's the DirectX issue or if the servers cant handle all of the calculations that are being fed to it from everyone's local client but I can unequivocally state this - I have no graphics issues on any other game that I play whether it's an MMO or a local game.
Mod 2 was the last stable release (other than MC) that I can actually point to and say "Yes, that was WAI."
We continue to have to research work-arounds for an obvious coding issue. Whether it's Microsoft's issue or Cryptics, I don't know. I do know that it has been with us for a long time.
I would like to mention that acting like an <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> really doesn't entice people to help with you or even side with you. I was tempted not to even reply to this thread with another solution, but for the sake of everyone else experiencing the same bug, I decided to anyways. Next time you ask for help, some pleases, thank yous, and not shitting on everyone who's able to play the game will really work wonders. But that's just my two cents, I can't really speak for everyone else.
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