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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,969 Community Moderator
    Hesitation?
    She was stopped by Georgiou. She literally gave the order to fire, and was immediately countered by her CO.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    We will never know what would have happened. All we can go by is what the story tells us, which ultimately acknowledged Burnham was right.
    That is not what the story tells us, actually. As you said, we have no idea what would have happened if she could have "sent" the Vulcan Hello. Maybe it would have worked, or it would easily be spun by the Klingons as justification to start the war, or something else entirely.

    The only thing the story tells us is that Burnham found a way to redeem herself in the eyes of her peers and herself for her attempted mutiny, allowing her mentor to die and her failure to avert the Klingon War.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    valoreah wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    And the Season Finale made sure that the inhabitants of the Star Trek Universe knew next to nothing about anything in Discovery since everything about the Discovery and her crew has been classified. Unlike every other Star Trek series where most of their adventures become mandatory reading for Starfleet Academy. One of the problems with Discovery is that it is too focused on the Klingon War or the Seven Signals/Control that we don't experience what the 2250s Federation is like while DS9 and Voyager was great for knowing what the 2370s Federation and the Delta Quadrant was like.

    And not one single iota of what you wrote here has anything to do with what I was replying to. There was no lore to "mangle" before Discovery, so claiming it is "mangling the lore" is incorrect.

    And I never said anything about mangling the lore. As far as the majority of people in the 2250s Federation is concerned, they know next to nothing about what happened in Discovery. It would be interesting to see if the Discovery crew's entire life was classified or if only their lives after they joined the Discovery is classified with fake histories to deal with their 'deaths.'
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,969 Community Moderator
    If anything about Discovery's existance is known... its probably just that she was a research ship, and she was lost with all hands. Simple as that.

    They don't have to classify the ship's existance, just what she was doing. It would be kinda like how in Stargate they still had personnel files on the members of SG-1, but no specifics on what they do unless you have security clearance. And Cheyenne Mountain exists, but there's no public record of the existance of the Stargate or Stargate Command.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    why would they? season 3 takes place 950 years in the future there is a fair chance that the Federation doesn't even exist anymore. Absolutely guaranteed though there is one person in the 25th Century who knows all about discovery that being is Jean-Luc Picard the only living being to have mind melded with both sarek and Spock. Though again that will not affect anything centuries after Picard is dead.

    Discovery could make an appearance in the new Picard series, not the ship, but the lore. So we might have not seen the last of the Mycellial Network even if Discovery never uses their Spore Drive again.

    Although, we can only say at least part of Season 3 takes place 950 years in the future since we don't know where or when the Discovery crew went after abandoning the Discovery according to Calypso.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    azrael605 wrote: »
    They are classified under the temporal prime directive, no database will list them, and they went to Teralysium over 50 thousand light years from Earth.

    Discovery being classified has to do with the risk of people violating the Temporal Prime Directive and causing immense damage to the present rather than Discovery and its crew directly violating the Temporal Prime Directive. Classifying Discovery and its crew is about protecting the Temporal Prime Directive from individuals from violating it and not about Discovery being classified under the Temporal Prime Directive. The Temporal Prime Directive is all about minimizing interaction with historical events.
    Regulation 157, Section Three, requires Starfleet officers to abstain from participating in historical events.

    Any residual trace or knowledge of Discovery's data, or the time suit, offers a foothold for those who might not see how critical, how deeply critical, that directive is.

    Therefore, to insure the Federation never finds itself facing the same danger, all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again.
    Under penalty of treason.

    As far as Discovery's crew being stuck on Terralysium, we have to wait for Season 3 to see. They might head back to Federation space before leaving the Discovery behind. There is also the possibility that Discovery will 'ride off into the sunset' and Season 3 will feature a different crew like Captain Pike and the Enterprise with zero mention about the Discovery and her crew.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    We don't know how long Discovery is going to stay on Terralysium or how long they are going to stay in the 33rd Century. All we do know is that they will leave Discovery behind at some point in time since the whole reason in going to the future was protecting the Sphere Data from Control and other entities that might abuse the data. Without Control menacing the galaxy, then there is no point in Terralysium being a safe haven for Discovery. As a ghost ship, the chances of some villain discovering the Sphere Data is reduced while if Discovery keeps on going on adventures, then it is just a matter of time before some villain gets the Sphere Data for their nefarious purposes. Also, Star Trek: Discovery doesn't need the USS Discovery since we have already had the USS Shenzhou as the main ship for the first episodes.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    Got summary?
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    got a summary of what that used to be?
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,297 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    Yikes.

    I mean I kinda like the idea of a fanfilm made like an in-universe documentary, but Axanar went the completely wrong way. The actors are not to blame, they were mostly fine. It's just the way it is presented.

    It's not an emulation of a good documentary but rather an emulation of the more popular, VERY superficial "let's show pew-pew-footage and don't go TOO deep into any specific topic" kind of documentaries, portraying one side mostly… yeah, they "interview" the klingon leader, but the whole thing just presents them as warmongers for the sake of being warmongers. Also that speech of the federation-president lol.
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