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poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
Like the Romulan and Gem'Hadar where you choose you alliance, I think the CoOperative might be a nice addition.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    They talked about while working on Delta Rising, it never came to be.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,459 Arc User
    Like the Romulan and Gem'Hadar where you choose you alliance, I think the CoOperative might be a nice addition.

    Playable Borgs are already in the game for LTS players, I doubt they would open them up to everyone as a faction over the protest of the lifers. Besides, from what I hear the only Borg ship that not a totally annoying disaster to fly is the probe, the cubes and the sphere are simply not practical to fly and those are the ones the players would want if they actually made a playable Borg faction.
  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    Can a mod close this out this has been asked and answered way to many times
  • trekkiejedigirl#9564 trekkiejedigirl Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    Like the Romulan and Gem'Hadar where you choose you alliance, I think the CoOperative might be a nice addition.

    Agreed, though we have discussed this before. Who knows maybe down the line some in the future???? However even if hypothetically it would come to pass you'd still have to choose from one of the two major factions to ally with. :)
  • poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    I do have a Lifetime Sub, and I still would like the Borg as their own Faction with their own ships. Just like Roms and Gems. Would an assimilated Gem'Hadar or Harojin or Andorian not be cool? These are just ideas.
    This isn't a debate on why not or why it can never be, Just Races/Species people might want as a Faction like Roms and Gems. There are no expectations on what will actually happen. Just Dreams and Fantasies.
  • poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    Would you tell a child that dreams that having a unicorn would be awesome to stop dreaming or having ideas. If people stopped coming up with fanciful ideas we might not have fiction stories let alone Science Fiction. Maybe It has been talked about before. I am sorry I am not original enough for you. If you don't like people's thoughts. Don't tell people to shut up because they think it might be awesome to ride a unicorn, because unicorns don't exist or transporters are stupid to want because that tech can't exist. This was supposed to be a place where people could say wouldn't it be cool if. If this kind of "What if" is "Old hat" and you had to know from the title it's been talked about before, why did you bother clicking?

    I thought these types of places were for people who liked the same things, but I guess these places are just for people to shame people for having thoughts, even if or especially because they aren't original thoughts.

    Sorry for getting you all riled up.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    Maybe if they ever revisit Delta for whatever reason they could make a new faction for the quadrant.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Would you tell a child that dreams that having a unicorn would be awesome to stop dreaming or having ideas. If people stopped coming up with fanciful ideas we might not have fiction stories let alone Science Fiction.

    People complain when the same idea gets raised again and again, that's one reason for the FCT (Frequently Created Thread) sticky. New ideas aren't bad at all, but grizzled forum veterans who've had the same conversation ten times get irked by thread eleven.

    To see some of the existing conversations, do a search on "faction."

    Don't add new comments to old threads though, necromancy is against forum rules.

  • shrimphead2015shrimphead2015 Member Posts: 527 Arc User
    As I understand it, the problem that was said why they couldn't make a borg faction had to do with the borg ships itself considering that everyone would want to use the borg cube or sphere. Borg ships (well at least according to the tv series and movie) do not bank when making turns so so they would have to have the ship mechanics changed for that type of ship in order for players to use. There was also mentioned the problem of the facing that due to the shape of these ships, folks could get confused as to which side is the "front".

    The latter I would not consider to be such a big problem or at least a fix for that could be made in order for the player not get mixed up so easily.

    I think the main problem is how much work would have to go in creating this particular faction and how limiting this faction would be in terms of ships and styles the ships could use. There's about five ships in game that have been used and less featured on tv and the movie, so it's not alot of options as to what would be available for the players.

    I think the developers know there would be alot of problems with a borg faction both mundane to game breaking. Would players be able to use vanity shields on borg ships? Would it be believable that the borg would choose a federation or klingon side considering they really don't care about local quadrant politics? Could they come up with more ship ideas for a borg faction? The list could go on and on.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,569 Arc User
    > @davefenestrator said:
    > Would you tell a child that dreams that having a unicorn would be awesome to stop dreaming or having ideas. If people stopped coming up with fanciful ideas we might not have fiction stories let alone Science Fiction.
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    > People complain when the same idea gets raised again and again, that's one reason for the FCT (Frequently Created Thread) sticky. New ideas aren't bad at all, but grizzled forum veterans who've had the same conversation ten times get irked by thread eleven.
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    > To see some of the existing conversations, do a search on "faction."
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    > Don't add new comments to old threads though, necromancy is against forum rules.

    Good advice, but in the long run it is no guarantee that the discussion will remain in its current state. Just ask the Archon/Vizier. Divining the will of the Developers can cause a premature demise regardless.

    At this stage, unless the new Faction comes with a new Recruitment Event I won't be creating any new Characters. I am totally focused on my Discovery Character and will only play the other 15 to help advance that one.

    In fact, it was only after over a month of play with my Jem'Hadar Character that I realized that I had messed up in its creation. I made a regular Jem'Hadar instead of a Vanguard. I also have only unlocked one of the four Vanguard Ships.
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  • poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    The purpose of this post was to see what species people would like to see as a faction. It has no basis on reality. I know that most ideas, if any, will not be put into practice. Just, what species would you be excited to see if it happened. This post was not STO Needs to have a Borg faction or story arc. I would be real excited if it happened.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    The purpose of this post was to see what species people would like to see as a faction. It has no basis on reality. I know that most ideas, if any, will not be put into practice. Just, what species would you be excited to see if it happened. This post was not STO Needs to have a Borg faction or story arc. I would be real excited if it happened.

    A truly original idea is greatly appreciated.....an idea that has been repeatedly bashed against the wall almost every other month, not so much, and seeing the game is 10 years old, originality is hard to come by. Just search the forums and you'll see what we mean.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,100 Arc User
    Terran Empire Faction! :)

    Let us spray paint our ships with yellow or red markings and shout 'long live the Empire' at the end of very mission and boom ... done.
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  • poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    Terran empire Yes! That would be awesome! 😀
  • schloopdooschloopdoo Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I’ve half convinced that playable Terran Empire toons are on hold only because Cryptic refuses to meet Wil Wheaton’s price to voice act the role of Emperor Wesley.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,100 Arc User
    schloopdoo wrote: »
    I’ve half convinced that playable Terran Empire toons are on hold only because Cryptic refuses to meet Wil Wheaton’s price to voice act the role of Emperor Wesley.

    Oh no no no no ... I don't want him as Emperor! Killy for Empress!!!!
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    Typhoon Class please!
  • schloopdooschloopdoo Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    LET THEM FIGHT
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,501 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    schloopdoo wrote: »
    I’ve half convinced that playable Terran Empire toons are on hold only because Cryptic refuses to meet Wil Wheaton’s price to voice act the role of Emperor Wesley.

    Oh no no no no ... I don't want him as Emperor! Killy for Empress!!!!

    "Why not both?"

    Different time periods, different rulers.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,102 Arc User
    IMO - They have enough 'mini-factions'. Given teh amount of extra work and time it involves; I'd rather they just continue with producing content all players can make use of, and not waste time on another mini faction that within 3 months, players will be complaining about lack of 'true' ships for said faction, etc. YMMV.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    IMO - They have enough 'mini-factions'. Given teh amount of extra work and time it involves; I'd rather they just continue with producing content all players can make use of, and not waste time on another mini faction that within 3 months, players will be complaining about lack of 'true' ships for said faction, etc. YMMV.
    Considering the new standard for "factions" is just a different tutorial and then joining the common storyline, I don't think it would be that much extra work to create new starting points. But then again, I don't think having just a new tutorial is all that interesting in the end, either. So whatever.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    if the devs could add more stuff to the existing factions, that would be already awesome: more kdf stuff, more rom stuff, more tos stuff.

  • schloopdooschloopdoo Member Posts: 373 Arc User
    The Gathering of the Juggal-er, the Alliance story that’s tied the game’s arcs together for several years has been something that I’ve genuinely enjoyed, honestly. Possibly the biggest counterargument against more minifactions being added to it is that so many of the ones I’d want to add have already had so many of their signature ships delivered via lockboxes and Lobi crystals.
  • poseidon#9721 poseidon Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    More stuff for factions would be nice. The ships for new factions that already have lockbox and Lobi ships could have different special consoles. I’ve purchased all the different Galaxy Class and Variants for the consoles.
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I've been giving it some thought, and I suspect it is not so much that flying a (I.E.) Cube would confuse the pilot as to which is the front, I mean heck you turn, the view turns, it should even out. I think it is more that anyone in PvP (Wait, people still do that???) would have a hard time telling which facing of the opponent was which.​​
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,354 Arc User
    Would you tell a child that dreams that having a unicorn would be awesome to stop dreaming or having ideas.
    No, but if that child demands a unicorn for their 23rd birthday, I might tell them it's time to grow up a little.
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  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    Would you tell a child that dreams that having a unicorn would be awesome to stop dreaming or having ideas.
    No, but if that child demands a unicorn for their 23rd birthday, I might tell them it's time to grow up a little.

    Well said.​​
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    People often seem to think they're the first to suggest something, even if it's impossible for it to not have come up before.
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