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CBS/Viacom Merger Announcement Expected Soon – Star Trek Re-Unification Cited As Factor (August 8th)

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  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 32,701 Arc User
    every federation starship is constructed of rock - even nowadays

    that same rubble was all over the bridge of the discovery and enterprise during their battle with control's fleet​​
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    Spock would be proud. Even if he wouldn't show it ;)
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,503 Arc User
    If it was literally the focus of the episode I can see why the producers would think it was a weaksauce concept.
    Knowing Moore, the focus of the episode would probably be the cost of these torpedoes. E.g. what do they have to do to ge them? Do they have to sacrifice their Federation ideals, or is there an acceptable compromise?

    One could easily imagine a scenario where Janeway wants to make a deal with some alien species about some supplies, but Chakotay finds out some dirty secret about them that makes him oppose the deal.

    Of course, it could also be some exploration story, where they collect some seemingly natural occurring antimatter and later find out that they were stealing antimatter alien babies. (Or that's what the aliens they are buying it from do.)

    Or maybe it could be a heist-type story, where they decide to steal what they need from a disreputable group of aliens.

    There is obviously a lot of potential for a story around collecting resources to run a starship.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,579 Arc User
    edited July 27
    Well, Moore was at least partly responsible for the two-parter in nBSG about how they managed to build a new Viper aboard the Galactica, even though they lacked proper machining areas. And as a bonus, due to using available materials rather than the usual hullmetal, the fighter they build had stealth capabilities, which came in handy during the raid on the Resurrection Ship. (Then they met up with the Pegasus, which did have those machine shops, and didn't build any more stealth fighters, which IMO was a pity - sure, they were hard to control, but once a pilot learned how, they provided a tremendous advantage over the enemy...)

    Besides, imagine the later story possibilities if they'd had to replace some section of the Voyager, maybe another storage bay or something, with a cyclotron to produce antimatter for the torpedoes. Because that becomes either a liability, or (given Starfleet's tendency to route things through other things) a whole new kind of defensive/offensive system.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 649 Arc User
    edited July 27
    jonsills wrote: »
    Well, Moore was at least partly responsible for the two-parter in nBSG about how they managed to build a new Viper aboard the Galactica, even though they lacked proper machining areas. And as a bonus, due to using available materials rather than the usual hullmetal, the fighter they build had stealth capabilities, which came in handy during the raid on the Resurrection Ship. (Then they met up with the Pegasus, which did have those machine shops, and didn't build any more stealth fighters, which IMO was a pity - sure, they were hard to control, but once a pilot learned how, they provided a tremendous advantage over the enemy...)

    Besides, imagine the later story possibilities if they'd had to replace some section of the Voyager, maybe another storage bay or something, with a cyclotron to produce antimatter for the torpedoes. Because that becomes either a liability, or (given Starfleet's tendency to route things through other things) a whole new kind of defensive/offensive system.

    True it could be rather interesting. Maybe they could have used it to produce materials besides heavy-antimatter too (dilithium and latinum cannot be replicated for instance, although the dilithium can be recrystallized if it cracks or overheats ever since The Voyage Home).

    Another possibility could have been to develop some simpler, less powerful torpedoes that could use the anti-deuterium slush they could get from the bussard scoops (the real world theory the show's scoops are based on says you could get either matter or anti-matter depending on velocity, or something along those lines) without requiring the more exotic stuff to function.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,923 Arc User
    every federation starship is constructed of rock - even nowadays

    that same rubble was all over the bridge of the discovery and enterprise during their battle with control's fleet​​

    Without shield technology or FTL technology, that might be what we use for starships in the future. Just convert an asteroid into a starship.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 48,651 Arc User
    One could easily imagine a scenario where Janeway wants to make a deal with some alien species about some supplies, but Chakotay finds out some dirty secret about them that makes him oppose the deal.

    Of course, it could also be some exploration story, where they collect some seemingly natural occurring antimatter and later find out that they were stealing antimatter alien babies. (Or that's what the aliens they are buying it from do.)

    Or maybe it could be a heist-type story, where they decide to steal what they need from a disreputable group of aliens.

    There is obviously a lot of potential for a story around collecting resources to run a starship.

    I think something similar was handled with the Equinox and those aliens that had been constantly attacking her.
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 10,147 Arc User
    There are multiple episodes > @mustrumridcully0 said:
    > markhawkman wrote: »
    >
    > If it was literally the focus of the episode I can see why the producers would think it was a weaksauce concept.
    >
    >
    >
    > Knowing Moore, the focus of the episode would probably be the cost of these torpedoes. E.g. what do they have to do to ge them? Do they have to sacrifice their Federation ideals, or is there an acceptable compromise?
    >
    > One could easily imagine a scenario where Janeway wants to make a deal with some alien species about some supplies, but Chakotay finds out some dirty secret about them that makes him oppose the deal.
    >
    > Of course, it could also be some exploration story, where they collect some seemingly natural occurring antimatter and later find out that they were stealing antimatter alien babies. (Or that's what the aliens they are buying it from do.)
    >
    > Or maybe it could be a heist-type story, where they decide to steal what they need from a disreputable group of aliens.
    >
    > There is obviously a lot of potential for a story around collecting resources to run a starship.

    All of those happened. In Retrospect Voyager was trying to buy replacement arms from a dealer who had been recommended to them. Seven and the Doctor believed they had uncovered evidence he had assaulted Seven and stolen borg nanites, ultimately leading to his death, after which it was proven that he was innocent.

    In The Cloud Voyager tried to replenish fuel supplies in a nebula only to discover the nebula was alive and being hurt by their actions.

    Dark Frontier started with the crew training for a "heist" on a Borg ship to obtain a transwarp coil.
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 2,612 Arc User
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 2,612 Arc User
    Your pain runs deep.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 2,612 Arc User
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 32,701 Arc User
    well, now we know why we're suddenly getting more KT stuff - the merger was probably already a done deal months ago; anything after would be the typical loose end tie-ups​​
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,397 Arc User
    Gonna prove interesting where it's decided to take all the branches of the 'franchise'.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 48,651 Arc User
    It might mean potential crossovers like how we can cross into the Mirror Universe.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,397 Arc User
    Heh. Now we can rally for Star Trek Online: The Motion Picture. It could happen...
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,555 Arc User
    > @psiameese said:
    > Heh. Now we can rally for Star Trek Online: The Motion Picture. It could happen...

    I'd love it.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,555 Arc User
    I hope ViacomViacomCBS spells out the effect this will have on Star Trek.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 34,113 Arc User
    lordgyor wrote: »
    I hope ViacomViacomCBS spells out the effect this will have on Star Trek.
    the merger? They'd already worked out how the assorted parts of the IP fit together, now it's all one rights holder.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 8,579 Arc User
    I didn't realize that Nickelodeon was part of this new empire.

    Now I have an urge to write a Star Trek/Paw Patrol crossover...
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 649 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I didn't realize that Nickelodeon was part of this new empire.

    Now I have an urge to write a Star Trek/Paw Patrol crossover...

    That would not be any crazier than some of the kid-Trek proposals that have already been kicked around in Hollywood. In fact, TAS came about because Roddenberry still had some pull in Hollywood when it came to Trek at the time and insisted that any animated Trek had to avoid all the silliness and be for all audiences, not just children, and Filmation was willing to use that family oriented format.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 10,923 Arc User
    psiameese wrote: »
    Heh. Now we can rally for Star Trek Online: The Motion Picture. It could happen...

    So the protagonists would encounter the horrors of ESD Chat?
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,397 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    psiameese wrote: »
    Heh. Now we can rally for Star Trek Online: The Motion Picture. It could happen...

    So the protagonists would encounter the horrors of ESD Chat?

    Right? The starship Coms officer constantly throwing out jamming signals. Due to constant, useless subspace chatter. Could be a running gag throughout the film. Then, finally, they throw their ear piece on the floor and crush it under their boot.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,503 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I didn't realize that Nickelodeon was part of this new empire.

    Now I have an urge to write a Star Trek/Paw Patrol crossover...

    One of the 2 animated shows in planning is intended for Nickelodeon. Just send them your script, like in the god old TNG era days. :p
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  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 10,147 Arc User
    > @psiameese said:
    > Gonna prove interesting where it's decided to take all the branches of the 'franchise'.

    All of the branches are now under the new Star Trek Global Franchise Group, which was announced at comiccon earlier in the year.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,555 Arc User
    https://sciencefiction.com/2019/08/14/cbs-viacom-merger-reunites-star-trek-tv-and-film-divisions/

    How long do you guys think the approval process is going to take? I think for right now between approval process, transition period, and other stuff I think Discovery, Section 31, Picard, Lower Decks, and STN (Star Trek Nickelodeon for lack of a better name) are safe. It's also still possible that Pike could still get his own series, or hear me out, a new opportunity could have arisened giving Mont Arson's Pike his own movie, he's cheaper then Chris Helmworth and Chris Pine, but still well liked and very charming, and it would bring the movie Francise back to the Prime Universe.
  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 10,147 Arc User
    edited August 19
    > @mustrumridcully0 said:
    > jonsills wrote: »
    >
    > I didn't realize that Nickelodeon was part of this new empire.
    >
    > Now I have an urge to write a Star Trek/Paw Patrol crossover...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > One of the 2 animated shows in planning is intended for Nickelodeon. Just send them your script, like in the god old TNG era days. :p

    An analyst noted that with the addition of Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, and other Viacom properties CBS All Access will have more content than Amazon Prime and Hulu.
  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 32,701 Arc User
    well, unless nickelodeon does adult stuff as well, their content isn't worth mentioning for those who don't have kids...or aren't feeling nostalgic about shows they watched as kids​​
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,555 Arc User
    > @shadowfang240 said:
    > well, unless nickelodeon does adult stuff as well, their content isn't worth mentioning for those who don't have kids...or aren't feeling nostalgic about shows they watched as kids​​

    I image some content is more all ages then just for kids.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,555 Arc User
    I think it's stupid that they have separate streaming for CBS All Access and Showtime and Pluto. Make it one Streaming Service.
  • azrael605azrael605 Member Posts: 10,147 Arc User
    edited August 19
    > @shadowfang240 said:
    > well, unless nickelodeon does adult stuff as well, their content isn't worth mentioning for those who don't have kids...or aren't feeling nostalgic about shows they watched as kids​​

    How is that different from the hundreds of hours of kids content on Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon? Lets look at Netflix originals, Trollhunters, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, a stack of Dreamworks movie spin offs, and more, like the brand new Masters of the Universe: Revelations announced yesterday.

    All of the streaming services have massive amounts of kids content. This merger gives CBS AA more than any of them (until Disney+) with Nickelodeon's entire library, thousands of hours of content. Additionally the vast majority of Nickelodeon content is currently unavailable to any streaming service, so this won't be content available on a competing service.
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