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sfdhsgjhkmsgsfdhsgjhkmsg Member Posts: 9 Arc User
I would love to see a future model of the classic NX-01. Maybe a bit larger and a 25th century rendition with upgraded slots and weaponry.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    I would love to see a future model of the classic NX-01. Maybe a bit larger and a 25th century rendition with upgraded slots and weaponry.

    Doubt they will seeing that the NX already has a T6 version.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,018 Community Moderator
    In a way the Sheppard/Gagarin matches the profile of the NX.
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,365 Arc User
    For the 25th century design, you want the Akira.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    For the 25th century design, you want the Akira.

    Indeed.....just reminded me of a forumite who accused Cryptic of ripping off the NX with the Akira design......should've heard the jaw drop when I kindly replied that the Akira was in First Contact in '96. :lol:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.

    Sure all T6 ships may be "fine" to do anything but some are the bottom of the barrel by a good margin.
    Like I'd never recommend anyone to get the Samsar with an epic phoenix token or buy the T6 excel.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.

    Sure all T6 ships may be "fine" to do anything but some are the bottom of the barrel by a good margin.
    Like I'd never recommend anyone to get the Samsar with an epic phoenix token or buy the T6 excel.

    The ship you like is subjective to you and you alone. I run the Samsar with a Polaron/Drain set-up and it does very well. The T6 Excel is one of the few ships I don't own, but as I said, it's the equipment that matters.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    For the 25th century design, you want the Akira.

    Indeed.....just reminded me of a forumite who accused Cryptic of ripping off the NX with the Akira design......should've heard the jaw drop when I kindly replied that the Akira was in First Contact in '96. :lol:

    That person must never seen First Contact then as the Akira-class (the USS Thunderchild to be exact) was one the 3 hero ships in the battle, the others being the Defiant (literally not just a ship of that class but the USS Defiant itself) and of course the Enterprise-E and the Akira-class was also the only one that showed up in DS9 or Voyager in any detail for ship-classes introduced in First Contact (the federation ship classes that is).
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    jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,784 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    spiritborn wrote: »

    That person must never seen First Contact then as the Akira-class (the USS Thunderchild to be exact) was one the 3 hero ships in the battle, the others being the Defiant (literally not just a ship of that class but the USS Defiant itself) and of course the Enterprise-E and the Akira-class was also the only one that showed up in DS9 or Voyager in any detail for ship-classes introduced in First Contact (the federation ship classes that is).


    And the Millennium Falcon. Don't forget her.
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    lordmerc22lordmerc22 Member Posts: 776 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.

    Did you look their layouts? to place gears, consoles especially, you need specific slots and then there is all the rest base stats, the usefulness of the console etc. Also dont forget the sits for boff skills

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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    Preference for seating/consoles is entirely subjective and on you. No one forces you to take any ship out there.

    Some of us take any ship and work with what's there and get a very good ship. We don't chase DPS or parse for anything except curiosity on occasion (at least I do).

    I happen to like just about any ship out there and I like to switch up just to do something different. It gets rather boring to always fly one flavor of ship all the time, chasing DPS.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    leemwatson wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.

    Did you look their layouts? to place gears, consoles especially, you need specific slots and then there is all the rest base stats, the usefulness of the console etc. Also dont forget the sits for boff skills

    Yes I do look at everything, then I decide what is best for that ship....in other words, I experiment and I don't follow 'meta'; but you're missing the big picture, and that's that the equipment (and Boff skills) make the ship. 'Best' is utterly subjective. I will not take one person's opinion at face value in this game because I can and do like to make my own mind up. One person's bad is another's awesome. There is only 1 'bad' set of ships in this game and those are the Dysons and the fixed cannons, otherwise I'll drag the 'best' out of any ship.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    And I still made a nice build on one of my Dysons using cannons. It's one of her 'for fun' ships.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    echatty wrote: »
    And I still made a nice build on one of my Dysons using cannons. It's one of her 'for fun' ships.

    Yeah, I made a Protonic Polaron for mine. Nearly bankrupted me in-game upgrading it all! :lol: I like to keep ships to 'canon' where I can. Prefer the Romulan and KDF visuals though.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    Oh yeah, I love the Romulan one and wish I could afford one. As it is, I paid lobi for the two captains who have one. Would take awhile to save enough lobi for a Rom one, which I would get in a heartbeat for my main Rom.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    Oh yeah, I love the Romulan one and wish I could afford one. As it is, I paid lobi for the two captains who have one. Would take awhile to save enough lobi for a Rom one, which I would get in a heartbeat for my main Rom.

    I got the original during it's initial run, but bought the Fed pack. Have to be creative with all the consoles as power is at more of a premium, especially if you're not packing Energy Siphon and Red Matter.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    I do have Red Matter and can slot Energy Siphon.

    I do like my for fun ships when I feel like just going out and having fun in the RomPatrols or DSEs.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I do have Red Matter and can slot Energy Siphon.

    I do like my for fun ships when I feel like just going out and having fun in the RomPatrols or DSEs.

    Indeed. My 'for fun' is taking the T1 NX into Episodes and having a 'canon' battle. :lol:
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,914 Arc User
    Oh, that sounds fun too. Not sure I could do that myself and survive for long though lol.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    jslyn wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »

    That person must never seen First Contact then as the Akira-class (the USS Thunderchild to be exact) was one the 3 hero ships in the battle, the others being the Defiant (literally not just a ship of that class but the USS Defiant itself) and of course the Enterprise-E and the Akira-class was also the only one that showed up in DS9 or Voyager in any detail for ship-classes introduced in First Contact (the federation ship classes that is).


    And the Millennium Falcon. Don't forget her.
    the Falcon is the very defination of a "non-hero" ship there, I also didn't mention the Norway or the Sabre classes as while present (and more clearly then the YT-1300) they're out of focus and on the backround, while the USS Thunderchild is shown several times as the main focus of the camera.

    When I speak of a "hero-ship" I mean movie making term aka a detailed model meant to be seen up close and in focus. Same way you have "hero make-up" for the princible characters when seen in a close up, while for the extra you can have as little as slip-on mask that wouldn't fool anyone up close but if seen from a distance and in low light it's "good enough" (like in the courtroom scene in "Undiscovered Country").
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,504 Arc User
    leemwatson wrote: »
    lordmerc22 wrote: »
    Generally speaking I think lots old T6s need a balance pass/upgrade by cryptic as they are barely mediocre by todays standards

    Looks no further than the iconic ships pack for example. Great looking ships and many(me included) will use them for that, but they are very disadvantaged

    Send them a list in the feedback forum. I don't think any T6 needs a balance pass or upgrade, and they're far from mediocre. It's your equipment that makes the ship, not the other way around.

    Sure all T6 ships may be "fine" to do anything but some are the bottom of the barrel by a good margin.
    Like I'd never recommend anyone to get the Samsar with an epic phoenix token or buy the T6 excel.

    Sometimes the fact that a particular ship fits the character is more important than seating and whatnot. Every phoenix event I try to get a Samsar for my Kobali character because that ship just fits the concept best for instance (I already have the uniforms from the phoenix box btw) though the odds of getting an epic token are practically nonexistent. I even fly T5s with some characters because they fit them better than any T6 I have.
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    baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,320 Community Moderator
    I thought this thread was about the NX?
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    I thought this thread was about the NX?

    Well it's about "future version" of the NX/Unity-class hence the talk about the Akira that's essentially a 24c remake of the NX (in-universe that is, out of universe the NX is the Akira modified as much as the designers could get away with to make look more like a 22c ship).

    Since we got the Akira and it's T6 variant we essentially have a "future" version of the NX-class, a TOS era version is missing sure but that's only one really and one could argue that NX-refit is the TOS era version.
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    Oh, that sounds fun too. Not sure I could do that myself and survive for long though lol.

    In 2014-2016 I'd do a bunch of advanced PVEs in the T1 Constitution or NX, and would do well, and not die....even got various PM's, telling me how impressed they were with me o.o
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    smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,664 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    I thought this thread was about the NX?

    Well it's about "future version" of the NX/Unity-class hence the talk about the Akira that's essentially a 24c remake of the NX (in-universe that is, out of universe the NX is the Akira modified as much as the designers could get away with to make look more like a 22c ship).

    Since we got the Akira and it's T6 variant we essentially have a "future" version of the NX-class, a TOS era version is missing sure but that's only one really and one could argue that NX-refit is the TOS era version.

    There's tons of differences, and it's not a Akira rip off.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqj1ouDDZM

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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    A new variant for the Akira with upswept nacelles and more of an NX silhouette would be nice, but there are plenty of other ships that need T6 treatment before they start doing variants of existing T6 ships.
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    djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,379 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    spiritborn wrote: »
    I thought this thread was about the NX?

    Well it's about "future version" of the NX/Unity-class hence the talk about the Akira that's essentially a 24c remake of the NX (in-universe that is, out of universe the NX is the Akira modified as much as the designers could get away with to make look more like a 22c ship).

    Since we got the Akira and it's T6 variant we essentially have a "future" version of the NX-class, a TOS era version is missing sure but that's only one really and one could argue that NX-refit is the TOS era version.

    There's tons of differences, and it's not a Akira rip off.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqj1ouDDZM

    Oh my gosh thank you! Saying they are the same ship is a pet peeve of mine. They are not the same. They don't even look alike, unless you squint really hard AND imagine the NX flipped over and then the nacelles bent up in the middle. Which makes no sense. "Flip it over and there you go" is the silliest argument I've ever heard. These two ships look alike as much as ANY two of most of the ships from the entire IP. They both have a saucer section, an engineering section, and two nacelles, and are both a grayish color. That is it. So did the constitution.

    It's like saying a white 2015 Chevrolet Impala is a future version of a white 2005 Chevrolet Cavelier. They both are sedans, have engines, and have four wheels. That's it. But they are not the same car.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,504 Arc User
    I think people get the fact that Paramount executives insisted on using the Akira class itself as the hero ship in ENT but Drexler and a few others talked them into using something with a similar look instead of the exact Akira design mixed up. Drexler did an excellent job of changing the design to reflect older esthetics and technology to come up with the NX.
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    djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,379 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    I thought this thread was about the NX?

    Well it's about "future version" of the NX/Unity-class hence the talk about the Akira that's essentially a 24c remake of the NX (in-universe that is, out of universe the NX is the Akira modified as much as the designers could get away with to make look more like a 22c ship).

    Since we got the Akira and it's T6 variant we essentially have a "future" version of the NX-class, a TOS era version is missing sure but that's only one really and one could argue that NX-refit is the TOS era version.

    There's tons of differences, and it's not a Akira rip off.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqj1ouDDZM

    Wow, thank you. Saying they are the same ship is a pet peeve of mine. They are not the same ship. They don't even look alike, unless you squint really hard and imagine the NX flipped over AND the nacelle pylons bent up in the middle. Which doesn't make any sense. These two ships look as much alike as any other two of most ships in the entire IP. They both have a saucer section, an engineering section, and two nacelles. That's it.
    It's like saying the 2015 Chevrolet Impala is a future version of the 2005 Chevrolet Cavelier. They both are sedans, have engines, and have four wheels. But that's it. They are NOT the same car.
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