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440 dil, bring back the whales
zaphodbeeblebrox
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I have noticed that since I started playing in March, right around the time the foundry was taken down, a lot of people said the dil rate would go up because so many whales were displeased and leaving. Well it has now gone up to 440 dil, and earning dil to buy zen is about 25% more expensive. I don't have much to spend on the game and grinding dil for zen was a great way of doing it, yeah it took ages but now it's just taking so long. Cryptic need to do something to bring back the big spenders!
On a similar note, what is the best way to get dil? I have been grinding the Dyson battlezone and doffing and admiralty as well as dil mining, am I missing anything?
On a similar note, what is the best way to get dil? I have been grinding the Dyson battlezone and doffing and admiralty as well as dil mining, am I missing anything?
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There is also the Deferi dailies from Ambassador Surah in the Alpha quadrant which also gives around 1200 or so dil.
There are also the Romulan Republic Patrol Missions which give 480 dil per. I've run around 8 of them and gotten just over 4k dil. How fast you get that depends on how fast you clear the patrols.
Rule of thumb is if you buy zen with dilithium, a sale isn't as much of a sale because the rates always skyrocket. It has nothing to do with whales, all dilithium whales will do is buy up all the cheap zen thus the prices will go up even more, and cash whales wont really affect the price at all.
I know, right?
Of course, I wasn't making nearly as much Dil back then. At this point, I even miss 280-330. I'm not sure another run of Phoenix packs will make a big difference anymore - people know that the chance of getting the ships is teeeeny, and almost everyone who cares has zillions of Phoenix Upgrades in their banks.
The New Romulus Ground areas award more Dilitium and Marks than do the Space Patrols and provide a Daily Mark and Dilitium Bonus for the first ground Mission of the day (and that Marks Bonus is above the normal 55 Daily Bonus).
l don't know.
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That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
No you're doing all the right things. All you can do is make more characters.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
A couple years ago, when it was doing what it's doing now, hitting 480 and higher... they introduced the Phoenix pack. Which was enough by itself (when introduced) to encourage so much Dil buying that the exchange dropped back to the 280 range (even a bit lower for a while).
Unfortunately, once all the active players have gone through multiple Phoenix cycles (which most of us have); there is very little reason to keep buying. The Epic/UR tokens are too rare, the ship unlocks are single-char only, and we've all already purchased the few DOffs/items etc. we want and most of us have piles of Phoenix upgrade tokens.
It is possible that Cryptic favors a high exchange rate (if they think it sells more Zen). It is also possible that a lower rate means those who care to spend real $$ to get their Dil need to buy more Zen to do so. Hard to tell without the data.
At any rate, expect the Dil exchange price to keep rising, with small dips when a Phoenix event comes along. Unless they make the Phoenix pack more interesting/valuable - in which case it may have a real effect on the exchange prices again.
That was when it wasn't extremely easy to cap on dilithium with no effort.
And the upgrades aren't sinking any more dil at all, as they have simply replaced the standard upgrades which actually cost more dil than the phoenix upgrades.
I do wish I could sell my 2 Epic tokens on the Exchange since I already have all the T6 event ships plus the two Breen T5s. Even being able to gift them would be nice since then I could help out someone who missed the events.
Right now we've had several things that have made Zen more desirable, and everyone has responded accordingly. We've had that trial run of the C-Store bought T6 gift tokens, we've just had an announcement of a new ship release, and I think we had a sale. All of which drives the Zen prices up because of demand. And the last couple balancing events, IE Phoenix Box events, were nullified by having sales or new things come out on top of them. Their timing has been kinda bad lately. We really do need another Phoenix event or something to balance out the economy so that it remains viable for all parties.
As for disgruntled whales leaving: yeah, they do, all the time, in all MMOs, but they usually get replaced. While being a whale is nice in that you can afford a lot of stuff and have fun with it, the disadvantage of course is that you run through the meaningful content way faster and it gets very easy, so the excitement of the game is reduced to "woah, new stuff", and devs can never keep up with introducing it.
A long time ago, when the Dil exchange was first brought up during the game's free 2 play transition, the idea of the exchange was that it would enable two things.
1) It would allow players who buy zen via cash to exchange it for dilithium, which was fewer in ways to acquire it at the time.
2) It would allow f2p players whom farmed dilithium a way to be able to acquire anything they wanted from the C-store in time.
I recall reading somewhere that the devs at the time wanted a fair rate for both to be around 250 dil for 1 zen (or rather cryptic point as it used to be) as the player buying zen would be able to get a fair deal and the player selling zen in exchange for dilithium would still get a fair amount.
I agree with you that a higher exchange rate would benefit Cryptic and Perfect World as more people would be pressed to buy zen. However, at the end of the day, if the exchange was capped out at 500 and never went lower, people would likely have a hard time buying dilithium if there is no dilithium being traded by players.
I feel cryptic would rather see everyone be able to get what they want at the end of the day, since I know they all seem to like it when they see people enjoying the things that they build, whether it be a new uniform or a new shiny ship.
A risky tactic on cryptics part when they've put so much stock into the ships=content approach as if the exchange stagnates then people will feel pushed into buying zen and either ignore the new shiny or walk away from the game entirely.
Looks like they will succeed.
Phoenix (maybe 30 points for a day)
upgrade week - not a peep.
Dilithium has been rendered largely worthless and it will remain so for the duration.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
So a buyer's market. My 500 Zen stipend will now get me 220,000 Dil.
Not bad for doing literally nothing.
Assuming I need Dil for anything?
Is it most though? Many fleets admittedly have given up on the colony. But also many fleets want to be top notch even if it really isn't that useful to be tier 5 (or tier 3, since another T5 holding was more or less ruled out).
Not that I am clamoring for a new holding, mind you. We're still at Colony-4.
They've yet to sink EC or GPL, either.
500 is the max it can reach on the upper end. It can also go as low as 50