Will there EVER be a way to get back the marks that were used to create these now useless tokens? Normally I wouldn't mind, but my main used up a LOT of marks to make sponsorship tokens for those captains on my account who were further behind. I still have them. So, can't they make a way for us to recycle them??
Instead of getting back the Marks, maybe make them as 100 Mark Tokens that are consumed for Projects in lieu of/in addition to Marks spent.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
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'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I have absolutely no skin in this game. I only made Tokens as I needed them. The only time I 'wasted' Tokens is when I had to create them for my Jem'Hadar Character. I had created a regular instead of a Vanguard and didn't realize there was a different type until about a month in.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Didn't this already get argued to death when it first happened?
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A follow up. In the absence of a definitive word people will do that.
Here's another thought. What else costs 100 Marks? Correct. Make these Sponsorship Tokens as an alternative input to creating an Elite Mark.
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'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
How about not telling people they will be able to do X in the first place?
It's super easy. Just don't say anything until you are 100% sure its gonna happen.
Then when it doesn't happen, no one can complain about something they didn't know got cut.
How about not telling people they will be able to do X in the first place?
It's super easy. Just don't say anything until you are 100% sure its gonna happen.
Then when it doesn't happen, no one can complain about something they didn't know got cut.
Did Cryptic ever promise an exchange program? (Not just say they'll look into it / think about it / thank you for sharing.) I only recall players asking for it.
Actually, it was mentioned on one stream the posibility of doing that, but just the posibility, if it's easy to implement.. so... probably not that easy?
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
By the same "token" they never said the whole idea of sponsorship tokens was going away either. THAT was the reason I created them, getting ready for ViL or whichever one it was tjat screwed me over.
> @duasyn said:
> How about not telling people they will be able to do X in the first place?
> It's super easy. Just don't say anything until you are 100% sure its gonna happen.
> Then when it doesn't happen, no one can complain about something they didn't know got cut.
Nobody at Cryptic EVER said there would be any way to trade in sponsorship tokens. Nobody even hinted that it was being considered.
Why not make them as you needed rather than stockpiling?
Yep this is what I always say.
OP, just think of it this way. You foolishly wasted marks in making all of your tokens and now all of your future characters are sponsored anyway. Problem solved.
When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
Why not make them as you needed rather than stockpiling?
Yep this is what I always say.
OP, just think of it this way. You foolishly wasted marks in making all of your tokens and now all of your future characters are sponsored anyway. Problem solved.
Yes....foolish is following a system that has been in place for half a decade then suddenly they decided to change the system and couldn't put a exchange system in like they've done in the past for other such things?
I guess stupid us for following a reliable system the devs put in but suddenly decided to change?
Because stockpiling something for easy access is stupid? Using a system that has been around for years is stupid?
So I guess it's stupid to play STO, by your logic....because it's something that has been around for years and you obviously think it's stupid?
Why not make them as you needed rather than stockpiling?
Yep this is what I always say.
OP, just think of it this way. You foolishly wasted marks in making all of your tokens and now all of your future characters are sponsored anyway. Problem solved.
Yes....foolish is following a system that has been in place for half a decade then suddenly they decided to change the system and couldn't put a exchange system in like they've done in the past for other such things?
I guess stupid us for following a reliable system the devs put in but suddenly decided to change?
Because stockpiling something for easy access is stupid? Using a system that has been around for years is stupid?
So I guess it's stupid to play STO, by your logic....because it's something that has been around for years and you obviously think it's stupid?
He said it was stupid to have done it....how much clearer can it be?
I stockpiled some and placed them in my shared bank because I'm a alt-o-holic....all I had to do is run to the bank the moment a character got to 50. It was simple and easy so I could get right into working towards rep gear without missing a step.
It's still something that's being looked at. They do want to do "something" with them, though. All I can advise is patience.
Let's please keep the discussion civil.
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He said it was stupid to have done it....how much clearer can it be?
I stockpiled some and placed them in my shared bank because I'm a alt-o-holic....all I had to do is run to the bank the moment a character got to 50. It was simple and easy so I could get right into working towards rep gear without missing a step.
I said it's foolish. Foolish means that you showed poor judgement in a particular situation. In other words, you made a mistake. "Stupid" means that you lack intelligence. That's a whole different level and is definitely not what I said.
When you see "TRIBBLE" in my posts, it's because I manually typed "TRIBBLE" and censored myself.
First: as has been stated, people haven't lost anything compared to the old system. They would have used the tokens to get to level 6, they got to level 6. Getting something back would be a bonus.
Second, MMOs change things all the time, so anything you do in expectation of needing it in a few days/weeks/months time always carries the risk that you wouldn't be able to do it, or would be but it won't be worth doing it anymore due to changes in the system. While such changes are always annoying and mitigation is welcome, you should be aware every time you do something that it's going to be rendered "stupid" in the future.
That being said, I wouldn't mind a way of turning the tokens in at all, I just think there is absolutely no obligation, moral or otherwise, to create this opportunity, especially since it'd take away resources.
As for "stockpiling", I can understand that though. While not with sponsorship tokens in particular, I often buy stuff before needed so I don't accidentally spend the resources elsewhere (e. g. impulse buying a rep impulse engine and suddenly having to gather new marks to pay for the tokens).
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Yes they did, the very moment that they announced that T6 Reps were coming and that hitting T5 in a Rep would provide sponsorship for that Rep account wide. Don't you read the blogs?
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Instead of getting back the Marks, maybe make them as 100 Mark Tokens that are consumed for Projects in lieu of/in addition to Marks spent.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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Here's another thought. What else costs 100 Marks? Correct. Make these Sponsorship Tokens as an alternative input to creating an Elite Mark.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Yes, a simple window to transform, as the window to Exchange old materials...
It's super easy. Just don't say anything until you are 100% sure its gonna happen.
Then when it doesn't happen, no one can complain about something they didn't know got cut.
Did Cryptic ever promise an exchange program? (Not just say they'll look into it / think about it / thank you for sharing.) I only recall players asking for it.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
OP, just think of it this way. You foolishly wasted marks in making all of your tokens and now all of your future characters are sponsored anyway. Problem solved.
Yes....foolish is following a system that has been in place for half a decade then suddenly they decided to change the system and couldn't put a exchange system in like they've done in the past for other such things?
I guess stupid us for following a reliable system the devs put in but suddenly decided to change?
Because stockpiling something for easy access is stupid? Using a system that has been around for years is stupid?
So I guess it's stupid to play STO, by your logic....because it's something that has been around for years and you obviously think it's stupid?
He said it was stupid to have done it....how much clearer can it be?
I stockpiled some and placed them in my shared bank because I'm a alt-o-holic....all I had to do is run to the bank the moment a character got to 50. It was simple and easy so I could get right into working towards rep gear without missing a step.
It's still something that's being looked at. They do want to do "something" with them, though. All I can advise is patience.
Let's please keep the discussion civil.
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Second, MMOs change things all the time, so anything you do in expectation of needing it in a few days/weeks/months time always carries the risk that you wouldn't be able to do it, or would be but it won't be worth doing it anymore due to changes in the system. While such changes are always annoying and mitigation is welcome, you should be aware every time you do something that it's going to be rendered "stupid" in the future.
That being said, I wouldn't mind a way of turning the tokens in at all, I just think there is absolutely no obligation, moral or otherwise, to create this opportunity, especially since it'd take away resources.
As for "stockpiling", I can understand that though. While not with sponsorship tokens in particular, I often buy stuff before needed so I don't accidentally spend the resources elsewhere (e. g. impulse buying a rep impulse engine and suddenly having to gather new marks to pay for the tokens).